The Six Iwo Jima Flag Raisers
There are six Flag Raisers on the famous Iwo Jima photo. Four in the front line and two in back. The front four are (left to right) Ira Hayes, Franklin Sousley, John Bradley and Harlon Block.
The back two are Michael Strank (behind Sousley) and Rene Gagnon (behind Bradley). Strank, Block and Sousley would die shortly afterwards. Bradley, Hayes and Gagnon became national heroes within weeks.
Mike Strank
Mike Strank was born in 1919 in Jarabenia, Czechoslovakia. He died in 1945 in Iwo Jima, Japan. Their leader and Sergeant, it was Mike who got the order to climb Mt. Suribachi. Mike picked his "boys" and led them safely to the top. Mike explained to the boys that the larger flag had to be raised so that "every Marine on this cruddy island can see it." It was Mike who gave the orders to find a pole, attach the flag and "put'er up!"
At home as a boy, Mike was studious, had a photographic memory, played the French Horn and once slugged a baseball out of Points Stadium in Johnstown. In 1936, Mike ran down to the river to see for himself the terrible Johnstown flood. He brought this report back to his family: "Don't worry--it will recede."
Mike's right hand is the only hand of a flagraiser not on the pole. His right hand is around the wrist of Franklin Sousley, helping the younger man push the heavy pole. This is typical of Mike, the oldest of the flagraisers, always there to help one of his boys. Two months before the battle Mike's Captain tried to promote him but Mike turned it down flat: "I trained those boys and I'm going to be with them in battle," he said.
Mike died on March 1, 1945. He was hit by a mortar as he was diagramming a plan in the sand for his boys. Mike is buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
Harlon Block
Harlon Block was born in 1924 in Yorktown, Texas. He passed away in 1945 in Iwo Jima, Japan. Harlon was an outgoing daredevil with many friends at Weslaco High School. A natural athlete, Harlon led the Weslaco Panther Football Team to the Conference Championship. He was honored as "All South Texas End." Harlon and twelve of his teammates enlisted in the Marine Corps together in 1943.
Harlon was Sgt. Mike's second-in-command. He took over the leadership of his unit when Sgt. Mike was killed. Harlon was killed by a mortar blast hours later on March 1 at the age of 21. When his mother Belle saw the Flag Raising Photo in the Weslaco Newspaper on Feb. 25, she exclaimed, "That's Harlon" pointing to the figure on the far right. But the US Government mis-identified the figure as Harry Hansen of Boston. Belle never wavered in her belief that it was Harlon insisting, "I know my boy." No one--not her family, neighbors, the Government or the public--had any reason to believe her. But eighteen months later in a sensational front-page story, a Congressional investigation revealed that it was Harlon in the photo, proving that indeed, Belle did "know her boy." Harlon is buried beside the Iwo Jima Monument in Harlingen, Texas.
Franklin Sousley
Franklin Sousley was born Sept. 19, 1925 in Hilltop, KY, and he died March 21, 1945 Iwo Jima, Japan. Franklin was a red-haired, freckle-faced "Opie Taylor" raised on a tobacco farm. His favorite hobbies were hunting and dancing. Fatherless at 9, Franklin became the main man in his mother's life. Franklin enlisted at 17 and sailed for the Pacific on his 18th Birthday. All that's left of Franklin is a few pictures and two letters Franklin wrote home to his mother:
------------July 1944, Letter from Training Camp: "Mother, you said you were sick. I want you to stay in out of that field and look real pretty when I come home. You can grow a crop of tobacco every summer, but I sure as hell can't grow another mother like you."
------------Feb. 27, 1945 Letter from Iwo Jima:
"My regiment took the hill with our company on the front line. The hill was hard, and I sure never expected war to be like it was those first 4 days. Mother, you can never imagine how a battlefield looks. It sure looks horrible. Look for my picture because I helped put up the flag. Please don't worry and write."
Franklin was the last flag-raiser to die on Iwo Jima, on March 21 at the age of 19. When word reached his mother that Franklin was dead, "You could hear her screaming clear across the fields at the neighbor's farm." Franklin is buried at Elizaville Cemetery, Kentucky.
Ira Hayes
Ira Hayes was born January 12, 1923 in Sacaton, Arizona, and died January 24, 1955 in Bapchule, Arizona. Ira Hayes was a Pima Indian. When he enlisted in the Marine Corps, he had hardly ever been off the Reservation. His Chief told him to be an "Honorable
Warrior" and bring honor upon his family. Ira was a dedicated Marine. Quiet and steady, he was admired by his fellow Marines who fought alongside him in three Pacific battles.
When Ira learned that President Roosevelt wanted him and the other survivors to come back to the US to raise money on the 7th Bond Tour, he was horrified.
To Ira, the heroes of Iwo Jima, those deserving honor, were his "good buddies" who died there. At the White House, President Truman told Ira, "You are an American hero." But Ira didn't feel pride. As he later lamented, "How could I feel like a hero when only five men in my platoon of 45 survived, when only
27 men in my company of 250 managed to escape death or injury?"
The Bond Tour was an ordeal for Ira. He couldn't understand or accept the adulation . . . "It was supposed to be soft duty, but I couldn't take
it. Everywhere we went people shoved drinks in our hands and said 'You're a Hero!' We knew we hadn't done that much but you couldn't tell them that." (More about Ira below . . .)
Rene Gagnon
Rene Gagnon, was born in Manchester, N.H. on March 7, 1925, and died in Manchester, N.H. on October 12, 1979. Rene Gagnon was the youngest survivor and the man who carried the flag up Mt. Suribachi. He was the first survivor to arrive back in the US. (More about Rene below . . .)
John Bradley
John Bradley was born July 10, 1923 in Antigo, WI, and passed away January 11, 1994 in Antigo, WI. "Doc" Bradley was a Navy Corpsman who "just jumped in to lend a hand." He won the Navy Cross for heroism and was wounded in both legs. Bradley, a quiet, private man, gave just one interview in his life. In it he said . . . "People refer to us as heroes--I personally don't look at it that way. I just think that I happened to be at a certain place at a certain time and anybody on that island could have been in there--and we certainly weren't heroes--and I speak for the rest of them as well. That's the way they thought of themselves also." (More about John below . . .)
Ira Hayes in Later Years
Ira in later years . . . Ira went back to the reservation attempting to lead an anonymous life. But it didn't turn out that way . . . "I kept getting hundreds of letters. And people would drive through the reservation, walk up to me and ask, 'Are you the Indian who raised the flag on Iwo Jima?"
Ira tried to drown his "Conflict of Honor" with alcohol. Arrested as drunk and disorderly, his pain was clear . . . "I was sick. I guess I was about to crack up thinking about all my good buddies. They were better men than me and they're not coming back. Much less back to the White House, like me."
In 1954, Ira reluctantly attended the dedication of the Iwo Jima monument in Washington. After a ceremony where he was lauded by President Eisenhower as a hero once again, a reporter rushed up to Ira and asked him, "How do you like the pomp & circumstances?" Ira just hung his head and said, I don't."
Ira died three months later after a night of drinking. As Ira drank his last bottle of whiskey he was crying and mumbling about his "good buddies." Ira was 32.
Rene Gagnon in Later Years
Rene Gagnon in later years . . . Rene Gagnon carried the flag up Mt. Suribachi. Rene was modest about his achievement throughout his life. Rene is honored with a special room in New Hampshire's prestigious Wright Museum. Rene is buried in Arlington National Cemetery, the Flag Raiser buried closest to the Marine Corps Memorial.
John Bradley in Later Years
John Bradley in later life . . . "Of the surviving Flag Raisers, only Bradley was successful in putting his life back together after the war." ---From the best-selling "Immortal Images" by Tedd Thomey
John Bradley returned to his home town in the Midwest after the war, prospered as the owner of a family business, and gave generously of his time and money to local causes. He was married for 47 years and had eight children. While Bradley had a public image as a war hero, he was a very private person. He avoided discussion of his war record saying only that the real heros were the men who gave their lives for their country.
The Global Media reported the death of a World War II icon on January 11, 1994 at the age of 70. But his hometown newspaper best captured the essence of Bradley's life after the war: "John Bradley will be forever memorialized for a few moments action at the top of a remote Pacific mountain. We prefer to remember him for his life. If the famous flag-raising at Iwo Jima symbolized American patriotism and valor, Bradley's quiet, modest nature and philanthropic efforts shine
as an example of the best of small town American values." ---Editorial, "The Antigo Daily Journal"
Article about Michael Strank (in Ukrainian):
http://joanerges.livejournal.com/1121513.html
i love history and you made it so i can under stand what some people did and may you have a wonder full life for what you have giving use thanks.
p.s.
your dad would be proud
If anyone knew my Uncle - Corporal George W. Hobby From Newark NJ, who was in the 4th Marine Division, and served on all the island invasions with the 4th, please contact me.
George was wounded off Iwo sometime in March 1945.
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iwo jima is the best subject ever:)
Semper Fi
I just want to say how grateful I am to all of the brave men that served our country during WW2. I have recently learned more about Iwo Jima and I am completely overwhelmed by the stories and experiences I have learned. What incredible men! My heart goes out to the men who endured that awfulness and to all who lost loved ones fighting for my freedom.
I just want to mention that this is a real nice web site. I have always had a huge interest in Iwo Jima. My cousin was Rene Gagnon. Semper Fi Rene were ever you are.
Paul
I think that the Flags Of Our Fathers was a good movie....
Amen----you are right about 'heros'----the word is used loosely today to 'con' people out of money for some vets causes, make slackers and cowards feel better about themselves, you name it---Americans of the WW2 period were just coming out of the Depression, Patriotism was strong in America as we were only 20 years from WW1---it was a very different time and a very different country---we shall not see their like again---God will reward them all and the Marines will, indeed, patrol the streets of Heaven
I am guessing that the big gold medal your father gave you is the Victory Medal. If I cam correct, the same insignia that is on the medal is under each tower (Pacific and Atlantic) and the National World War II Memorial.
MY DAD WAS ON IWO JIMA A 17 YEAR MARINE ,HE GOT DRAFTED WHILE THERE HE SAID THE COMMANDING OFFICER TURNED THE DRAFT NOTICE HIS MOTHER FORWARDED AND SAID YOU S.O.B. CAN'T HAVE HIM, HE WAS WOUNDED HIS TWO BEST FRIENDS KILLED LOTS OF OTHERS,IN ALL THE YEARS I ONLY GOT SMALL BITS OF WHAT THIS BOY SAW ,BUT I DO REMEMBER THE NITE MARES WHICH WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NITE WHEN I WAS YOUNG AS TIME PASSED THESE IMPROVED
GREATLY I HAVE SOME THINGS MAPS PATCHES INSIGNA BUT HE SAW THAT GREAT FLAG RAISING HE WAS PROUD OF THAT, I HAVE A GOLD MEDAL COIN HE GAVE ME ABOUT TWO YEARS BEFORE HE PASSED I NEVER HAD SEEN IT BEFORE THAT I REMERBER I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ITS OF THE FLAG RAISING HE SAID ALL THAT SAW IT GOT ONE ITS BEAUTIFUL
HOPE SOMEONE MIGHT KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS FLAG COIN MIKE
Judith, I also have been informed over the years that Rene Gagnon was my grandfather's cousin. I grew up being told this information but by the time I became interested in the family tree my grand father passed. His name was Woodrow Gagnon and he resided in China, Maine. He was a Pearl Harbor survivor. he was married to Laura Gagnon and she has passed as well. If you have any information please contact me if you wish. Thank you...
I was on Iwo Jima in 1965 for the twentieth anniversary of taking the island. The Drum & Bugle Corps from the Marine Barracks Guam was sent there for the commemoration. Dose anyone have photos of that ceremony? email to: wcdsd45@att.net
I have a WW II piece of paper money from the Japanese occupation of the Philippines with Rene Gagnon's name and address hand-written on it. Also written on it is" sole survivor of the flag raising at Mt. Suribachi". Any chance it is authentic?
Hi Mary,
My son, age 16, is doing a history project on flags as a rallying point for change. He would like to email you if you are interested. Thanks for any help.
Anyone on this sight know or friends with Bob Darling private infantry he served in the Solomon Islands, New Calidonia, Iwo Jima and later on Okinawa. He started out in the Second Division out of boot camp. Month or so later volunteered for a Marines parachute group. After parachute training was assigned to the First Marine Division. In late 1943 shipped to New Caledonia for jungle training. Says parachute school was later disbanded because islands had too much jungle and not enough open area to land. Was assigned to the 5th Division 28th Marine battalion and sent to camp Pendleton in California. From there sent to Hawaii and then to Iwo Jima. He was in the Fifth Division and the 28th regiment or batallion on Iwo. From there back to Hawaii and later to Okinawa. I am typing this because he has ocular degeneration and almost blind. If anyone knows him let me know by email. Thank you.
my grandfather was a chief master sergeant in world war 2 in charge of training marines at parris island. at the time, there were only 2 sergeants with this rank, one at the island, the other at pendelton. his name was william fritsche. i was wondering if any marines remember him and could possibly relate some stories. he was divorced from my grandmother who married another marine who died on iwo. her name was Martha Fritsche, or Martha Ann Byrne. she lived in savannah ga and had children named william jr, gertrude, thelma, martha and ruth. if anyone remembers a marine that might have married her and died on iwo, i'd love to hear from you. thanks. though i didn't follow them into the marines, was a colonel with the 75th rangers until i retired.
God bless them and the Corps. They represented the best of the Corps. Their sacrifices codified the legacy of honor and duty that still defines what it is to be a United States Marine. SEMPER FI
I believe my dad was on the hill during the battle of Iwo Jima. Where can I find a list of names? He was Richard Estabrook.
Thanks
Hi Kevin ~ I want to be very careful how I answer your question, because (a), I don't want to offend you or your uncle (who I would consider a hero), and (b), because I've been up for nearly 30 hours and now must struggle to compose this accurately.
Because of the fame the flag raising photo caused, I have to believe everybody atop Suribachi during that event has been carefully identified. A vast majority of them were even photographed, some in multiple pictures.
Every Marine up there during the 'famous' flag raising was from the 5th Marine Division, and almost all of them belonged to the 28th Marine Regiment. There weren't a lot of them, and they have all been identified.
There were three known cameramen there at the time of the 'famous' flag raising. Joe Rosenthal was a civilian Associated Press Wire photographer; USMC Sgt Lou Lowery was a still camera combat photographer, and USMC Sgt Bill Genaust was a combat motion picture cameraman, who shot the 6-second event on color film.
Joe Rosenthal started climbing up the 550ft hill late; he met a crowd of his civilian combat photographer buddies coming back down the hill, who told him there wasn't anything important to see up there, and he might as well turn around and go back down. He didn't, and the rest is history.
Because of the importance of Rosenthal's photo, and because there was an initial mis-identification of one of the flag raisers (Cpl Harlon Block), a lot of people have asked a lot of questions for 66 years about just exactly who was on that hilltop during those 3hrs, and specifically who was there when the second (replacement) flag was raised. I am confident they have all been identified and accounted for. If your uncle's name doesn't appear in that list, I have to believe he wasn't there. HAVING SAID THAT, I wasn't, either, so this is supposition.
Further, the cameras used for those assignments were considered High Holy Things of that era. They were cared for like a Marine cares for his weapon. They were professional, expensive and certainly not common-fare for the average Marine to carry into combat. First, they were the size of a cantaloupe and pretty bulky. They required a bag (or two) of support equipment to go along with them. They were as rugged as they could be made (so as to stand up to combat conditions), but could (and did) break if abused. In fact, there is indeed a story about one of the cameramen who slid a ways down one side of Suribachi that day, breaking his camera. I'm too tired to remember who it was or to look it up, but it's a documented incident. My point is that a combat Marine, assigned as a Demolitions Man, is certainly not going to carry one of those cumbersome, precious cameras into combat when his sole purpose in life is to remain alive while blowing things up.
Finally, I can imagine your uncle being assigned as a truck driver, a demo man and a photographer AT DIFFERENT TIMES during his Corps career, but not all at once, and certainly not during the worst battle the Marine Corps has ever fought. Every Marine on that island was given specific assignments and supervised to the extent that insane combat allows. I can't imagine your uncle having the 'liberty' to climb Mt Suribachi with a camera if he was needed as a demo man to blow fortifications down near the beach. Sorry, it just doesn't add up. But again ~ I wasn't there!
How can you determine the truth? Not sure you can, at this point. Just about everybody associated with that hill on 23Feb45 is dead today ~ many of them never made it off Iwo alive. And since those are the men with the real answers, the truth has died with them. But the facts just don't point to anyone but Rosenthal taking that picture. It was the most-famous photograph of WWII, and earned Rosenthal the Pulitzer Prize ~ why wouldn't your uncle have made a public protest if it was actually his own?
Mrs. Ayers, your story just put chills of pride up my spine. How very significant that a man should live 85+ years of life and, as his memories drift slowly away from him in later years, the ones which remain strongest are those of his duty in the Marine Corps. How very proud you must be of your Marine, Ma'am, and deservingly so. We all thank him for his dedication and service. If he and his generation had not done what they did back then, we would be writing this in Japanese or German today. And I thank YOU for standing beside him, as his reward for years of hard duty well served. Iwo Marines are everyone's heros, and there's usually a LADY standing beside them. Semper Fi, Ma'am, and thank you for your loyalty to our hero.
Hi Dave ~ wanted to assist you in your future attempts to gather info about your Dad's exploits on Iwo Jima during WWII. His unit would have been properly referred to as the "9th Marine Regiment", which was part of the 3rd Marine Division. The information you are missing are his Battalion, Company, Platoon and Squad (in declining order of size).
The manner in which you referred to your Dad's unit ("3rd Division, 9th") is an Army term which would confuse your search, since these are Marines.
When you learn his entire unit designation, it would sound like, "1stSqd, Scout Platoon, "B" Company, 3rd Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 3d Marine Division" (for example).
The 9th Marines were held in reserve during the first 5 days of the battle of Iwo Jima, then came ashore on 25Feb45 (two days after the flag raisings on Suribachi). They were assigned to some of the fiercest fighting in the middle of Iwo, including Motoyama airfield #2 and "Cushmans' Pocket". Third Bn ("3/9") was temporarily attached to the 21st Marine Regiment ("21st Marines") to bolster their effort. The 9th Marines left Iwo on 07Apr45 and sailed for Guam.
Your Dad's generation (even those who were ashore on Iwo) lived under the confusion of a simple mis-statement made by AP photographer Joe Rosenthal about the two flag raisings.
Joe had taken three significant photos on Mount Suribachi on 23Feb45; the FIRST was of the small flag being raised at/abt 10am that day. The SECOND was what he called his "Gung Ho" shot, with 18 men from 3dBn 28th Marines (3/28) gathered together under the first flag, POSED, cheering and waving at the camera. That was taken only a few minutes after the first (small) flag had been raised. His THIRD shot became the famous iconic flag raising we all know. It was NOT staged ~ in fact, there was no fanfare involved at all. The second (larger) flag was raised at/abt noon on 23Feb45, just two hours after the first one. Rosenthal was unprepared for the picture, but panned and snapped it very quickly, without preparing his camera or framing the shot. It's a wonder he got it at all, let alone that it came out as perfectly as it did. He almost literally "shot it from the hip" without adjusting his F-stop or focus.
Rosenthal's photos reached HQ in Guam long before he did, and caused a sensation. The "famous" photo had already been published on the front pages of newspapers across the USA by the time Rosenthal got to HQ. They asked him if his "second" picture had been posed or not? Thinking they were referring to his "Gung Ho" shot, he said it was. They were actually asking about the 'famous' raising of the larger flag, but Rosenthal was too exhausted from the battle and his trip to fully understand that. Headquarters circulated the erroneous info that "Rosenthal had staged" that shot. It took years to correct the misunderstanding, and some members of your Dad's generation never got the correct word. The press also mis-identified one of the flag raisers. In the famous photo, Cpl Harlon Block is seen planting the base of the "flag pole" (a bent water pipe) into the ground. For about two years he was misidentified as being Sgt Henry O. Hansen, who was present that day and who had helped raise the first, smaller flag, but was not involved in raising the 'famous' flag. Both Block and Hansen later died on Iwo ~ neither of them ever saw the photos, or knew of the misidentification controversy.
You can contact members of the IWO JIMA SURVIVORS ASSOCIATION in CT (SOSIwoJima.com) and discuss this matter with their secretary (who is an Iwo veteran). Many of the original Alpha Rosters still exist from that battle, and you might find your Dad's full assignment information there. You may also write to Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps, for copies of his complete service record. Be prepared to confirm your identity as his son.
My Uncle was Robert "Bob" Mulstay I believe he was 5th Marines, Demolitions and truck driver, Photographer. He was on Imo Jima and Claimed to have taken "the picture" he died years ago and I don't remember the details of his story, but he was adament that the AP reporter Joe Rosenthal "stole" his picture. I have heard interviews with Joe and something about a camera mix up up on the mountain.... Could it be true and how would I ever find out?
From what I have read and seen, the first flag was raised but it was rather small. Also the marine that it belonged to wanted it back. So a second larger flag was found and that is when the photographer, Rosenthal I believe was his name, decided to go along for the photo opportunity.
Hi, my grandfather, John Taylor Schmitt, was on Iwo, at Suribachi, and then KIA on Iwo a few weeks later. Would love to converse with your father, to see if he knows anything about my grandfather. thanks JOHN
I AM GOING TO JOIN THE MARINE CORP. IN A FEW YEARS AND IF I MAKE IT BACK I WILL COMMENT MY STORY ON THIS VERY WEBSITE AND MAY ALL OF THE PAST US. MARINES .R.I.P.
For years I've wondered who the men were that raised our nations flag on iwo jima. I served a term in the marines without knowing who those men were and it wasn't until a couple of years ago that i found out by reading "Flags of Our Fathers" by Doc bradley's son James. I Fly the three flags i value most at my home at all times. those flags are of course OLD GLORY,the Marine Corps flag, and the POW MIA flag. I'm proud to add that during my service, I was able to operate the modern version of the vehicles that brought those men from the ships to the sands at Iwo all those years ago. It's an experience i will never forget and a strength of pride that will never be taken away. Any time you meet a uniformed service member of our armed forces, please show your support for us by thanking them for their service and willingness of sacrifice.
I have read the above heart felt comments, and being a Vet, really appreciate them very much. However, there are those who made those comments, will turn around and dishonor all those soldiers who fought and died for freedom, by voting for socialism in this country. AMERICANISM
It is the soldier, not the reporter Who has given us freedom of the press; It is the soldier, not the poet Who has given us freedom of speech; It is the soldier, not the campus organizer Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate; It is the soldier Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag And whose coffin is draped by the flag; Who allows the protestor to burn the flag. (Auther unknown)
Grandpa for all future grandchildren
I have studied our heroes for many years. To actually read accounts from their families is truly a blessing. I visited the WW2 muesem in New Orleans I recommend seeing the movie there. It is hard to see this without getting choked up, seeing what these boys did for our great country. It disturbes me that so many of these fine men are passing away each day. Please thank them before it is too late. I am truely thankful too all veterans for what they have sacrificed for our fine country. God blesses all of you.
This site is really a tribute to all the men and women who serve our country. Whether it is in uniform or not, it is important to realize that each and everyone of us is unique and important in the world. I can't say enough about our Vets. My Dad was a scout sniper in WWII and I have many artifacts and photos that he left. My Brother flew Spectre Gun Ships in Vietnam. My hat is off to them and every other VET.
My dad committed suicide in 1974 and like all vets, he never talked about it. I never really asked either. My Aunt and Uncle bought me a commemorative IWO JIMA Plate and gave it to me many years ago. They told me that Dad was Really pissed because the guys that raised the flag he knew and that the second flag raising was staged. Dad knew them all including the 6. God Bless them all.
Now, the crux of my post. I read the Flags of our Fathers and when I read that Ira Hayes and the rest of the boys sailed on the USS Mount Vernon, I vaguely remembered the name of the ship. I pulled out my fathers service record which I had sent for from St. Louis and saw that dad also sailed on the USS Mount Vernon on 23 January 1943. I was shocked. When I pulled the ammo box of things that My brother had given me for safe keeping, I found a picture of I believe the 3rd. Division 9th in a group I believe to be in New Zealand due to the background. As I was putting it away, I had tilted it in the light and saw some ink outlines. You can't imagine my surprise to see that circled in the photograph were I believe Ira Hayes and Harlon Block. I had looked at this photo several times previously and saw My Dad and Harry Gene, his scout sniper buddie but never saw the ink circles. There is a lengthy story about Dad and Harry that I won't get into here, but, suffice it to say that God had a plan and he wants me to share it. I will be working on a website for this information and hope that you will visit it when It is up. I have some pictures of some Japanese Soldiers/Officers/Sailors that I also want to share as the families of these brave soles may have never seen them or copies may have been destroyed in the Hiroshima or Nagasaki Atomic Bomb aftermath.
God Bless and If you are interested in more, feel free to email me, I would love to share and also find out about others that served with my father, "Sully" Kalen. He was a Corporal in the 3rd. 9th. He was one of the original 32 Scout Snipers that were trained at the 20th Century Fox Studios in Camouflage and Camp Elliot in Gathering Military Intelligence (SCOUT-SNIPER School).
Dave Kalen
My father was a Marine on Iwo Jima during the raising of the flag, he was 18 years old, He is now almost 85 and has been telling us alot of very interesting stories about Iwo Jima. He does not have an e-mail, but I could relay anything you would like to know. He was a sharp shooter and I am VERY proud of all he did.
I was drafted for Viet Nam war, in 1969, so I volunteered for 3 years in army. But I was chosen for United States Marines. That was the best day of my life, it changed my life for ever ! I will always be very proud, to be able to say I am one of the few. I would go in again, in a minute, if I were able, for I will always be a United States Marine !
I just want to say, God bless all the men that gave their lives on that island! The true heroes are those who sacrificed themselves. I'm proud to say that I am American! I wish the men that gave their lives back then, could know the honor they have now. I'm looking forward to joining the USMC or the Army Rangers. I'm only 14 now, but I'm going to join so I can serve the greatest nation on the planet. To all the men and women who have fought or are fighting now: thank you very much. If it wasn't for you, none of us would be free. Hooah
Being that I was born and raised up in Weslaco, Texas one of the first things I learned about was the Weslaco 8 and Harlon Block. What these young men did so that the generations of Americans to come could remain free we cannot forget. I only hope that the young people of today have that same desire to put it all on the line to remain free. Mr. Block and myself do share something we are both X Panthers only a person from Weslaco would understand what I'm talking about.
These men were indeed heros as were all those that have served our great country. Even though they were before my time, they were my brothers. Those Marines that follow me are also my brothers. This is because all Marines are bothers. Let's not forget those that are fighting around the world for our country as we speak. May God bless and watch over every one of them.
Semper Fi
I thank all of you for your service especially Ira Hayes (Chief Falling Cloud). What you did was amazing and I only wish that you were here to see the true fruits of your labor and sacrifices. RIP Ira Hayes - I will never forget.
These men are real heroes. Real heroes don't seek out the limelight and take credit for things.
Contrast this with politicians and Generals who take credit for others work. Thank you to
all the Marines who fought through unmentionable conditions. It also was not easy for them
after they came home.
Franklin Sousley is my 4th cousin. My grandfather, his second cousin, use to talk about him all the time and what a great war hero he was. Its nice to know that my family hasn't been forgotten in time.
If you knew the story of these men then you would know that they raised the second flag because the commanding officer wanted a bigger flag on that mountain so that every American on the island could see and that there was victory. Not because someone wanted a better photo opportunity.
just happened to see this blog and wanted to reply. My grandmother is Uthana Lahoma Hayes. And her father is Avery Hayes.
Just wondering if we might be related. Not many people left on my grandmothers side of the family. Hope to get a reply. Carl Sanchez
hi my name is Rose Bradley I have been doing research on John Bradley can you please tell me some more stuff about him i would really love that thank you.
Rose Bradley
I'm a history buff it would just be the best thing in the world to meet the flag raisers.
My grandfather favorite nephew PFC Wilfred G Ouellette, Jr was KIA on Iwo Jima and was with the 5th Marine Division. May we never forget their service and pass the story of their bravery to our children and grandchildren.
I know it's to late for your project. I'm a 37 year old veteran. I just wanna give you a little more disturbing view. I didn't know any of these brave men. I only know Ira Hayes story because I too am from Arizona. The disgusting part of the story to me is that these brave warriors fought a tremendous battle and upon completion of their mission raised our Flag. What A proud moment of triumph. Because no pictures were taken at that exact moment...They were directed to do it again, for the camera this time. War is ugly. War is unforgettable. War is life changing. At no time during a war should soldiers be used in this way. Our brave men & women, many who gave their lives, should never be used as a propaganda tool. What they did on that day, they did for us...You & I. I served this Country Proudly & will INSIST that my children never serve a minute in this mans military. I know that might sound cowardly but i implore you to do your homework and do your OWN thinking.
Both flags are at the National Marine Corps Museum in Quantico, Va.
As they were sculpting the Memorial Statue of the Raising of the Flag on Iwo Jima, the Marine Corp was searching for the money to construct the base on which the statue rests. Cpl. Stephen B. Sheldon (D), stationed at Camp Pendleton during the Korean War,was given the task to make it happen. Single handedly, he raised the money by arranging for a MG dealer to commit to donating a brand new car to the cause and then set to personally sell enough raffle tickets, on base, to arrange for the construction of the base and plaque to hold the the magnificent statue. Semper Fi!
I saw at least one of the flags at the Marine Corps Museum in Washington DC. Both of the flags may have been there. The museum was located at the Navy Yard in DC. I visited the museum in 1996.
Maybe I've missed it. I'm trying to find out if the original 2 flags still exist and where they might be located? Are they property of the US Government still or have private individuals maintained ownership?
wow were do i start it is sad and makes us really think when we learn about peple like these who do this everyday and live among us god bless those who were their and may the ones who had sacrificed theere life may yyou rest in peice!
May all the soldiers that have fought against Japan at Iwo Jima had rest in peace. Especially to the 6 flag raiser at Suribachi, I appreciated your hardwork and may all of you rest in peace with God.
AMEN
I lived in South Texas for 2 years and saw the Iwo Jima Monument in Harlingen, Texas. The area around it has many trees planted in honor of fallen marines. Looking off to the side of the monument I noticed a chained off area, about 4 feet by 7 feet. I walked over to see what this was all about. Once I reached the area and looked down, it was the grave of Harlon Block!! I stood in silence for a short time over this brave young man. I then turned back to the monument and looked at "him" crouched down, planting the flag pole in the ground. Looking back at Harlon, only 19 at the time of his death I was overcome with emotion. It was all very moving.
wow that is awsome thanks for taking the time to post that i really appretiate it im using it foe a history paper keep up the good work
Rene. You were the cousin of my dad, Rene Mulaire. I want to thank you for your legacy to my family. You will be remembered always. You were a hero to many.
Not sure if you saw any of my post, but my Uncle Joe posed for this monument. He is the bottom man. I have all the original black and white pictures of all the men, including Felxi de Weldon.
Great site. The only thing I have is that my Uncle Joe posed for this monument. He is the bottom man, I think replacing Harlon Block. I have the original black and white pictures when Felix de Weldon sculptured this first one. It was three feet tall and white. I have pictures of all the men who posed for this, including Felix. They posed in a driveway between two houses. I was told by my Mother that she sent copies to the Marines for their museum, but after contacting them they were not aware of these pictures. I remember tell my teacher in school that I had these and she sent me to the office for lying. My Mom and Dad brought them up to show her. Still remember the look on her face..Just my two cents worth to a great website. David
I have the map of Iwo Jima that was on Pawn Stars. My Uncle Joe posed for the monument. He is the bottom man. I have the original black and white pictures of all the men, including Felix de Weldon. They posed for this in a driveway between two houses. The sculpture was three feet high and possibly made of plaster of paris. Kind of funny, the Felix de Weldon museum said there were never any pictures taken at this time...David
After seeing anything like this website, I always feel a deep hatred toward those "thank God for dead soldiers" protesters. If they were to actually understood what these brave men did for our country, they wouldn't be such disrespectful asses. I hope that they are affected by a death of a soldier, so they finaly understand.
Hi Hazel, we seem to share a relative in Franklin Runyon Sousley. I am Tina (Sousley) Crain. I am trying to research my family for myself and for my children as my father has passed away and would love to exchange any info we both might have.
Thank you!!!!
I just found this website while researching the Sousley side of my family. I was told years ago that I had a cousin that went to Iwo Jima, and when the book and movie "Flag of our Fathers" came out, I realized who my cousin was and what he did for our country. Proud to be an American and also in the same family line of Franklin Runyon Sousley.
I am trying to find out anything and everything about the Sousley's that I can, so if there is anyone from that family, I would love to hear from you.
Thank you!!!!
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I had a good friend who served in the ETO, he told me that a Paul Ricketts from Hayesville, Clay County, North Carolina was one of the original flag raisers on Iwo Jima. The small flag that was first raised on top of Mt. Surabachi.
Could anyone even tell me if there was a Paul Ricketts in the USMC and was he on the island?
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There is no such thing as a former Marine....Once a Marine, always a Marine.
Hi,I'm Maria Perpiña, and I'm from Spain, I'm doing a work about this battle, and I want to know if someone knows the e-mail of a veteran of this war because I want to do an interview.
Please, send me an e-amil to trabajomdi@gmail.com
Thanks
semper fidelis
My grandfather watched the raising of the flag and was friends with one of the flag raisers. Rest in peace Simon Oliver.
Does anyone know what the actual name of the photograph is called. Please e-mail me at parkerroberson@rocketmail.com. God Bless US Military
I have mad respect for all WV's especially Ira Hayes. My Mothers, Fathers cousin. I am only 16 and we proudly serve my country. If only i knew him.
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IRA HAYES
I respect our military services, and im only 16. I support our troops, i thank our vetrans. Because learning about iwo jima on my own free time made me realize how much...S...culd happen to our country, but thankfully we have very brave men and woman to lay their lives for our freedom. I love reading everything bout Iwo Jima. and ever since i saw flags of our fathers and saving private ryan when i was like...idk...young, and hearing stories from my grandpa whos a vetran,made me appreciate vetrans more and more. Thankyou to all those who served and are serving, i wish the best tto you all :) .......HOORAH
While he wasn't a flag raiser, my husband, Bob Ayers, USMC, was on the mountain before they took the flag up. He was in demolitions and helped clear the area prior to the raising of the flag. He is now 85 and is slipping away with Alzheimer's. The thoughts that remain all center around his time in the Marines. Now, nearly 65 years later, he quite often is brought to tears as he speaks of those who did not come home.
We all know the story of Bob meeting a little girl later in Japan as he did guard duty who told him of her brother who had no shoes. When Bob returned to the area, he brought with him an extra pair of boots he had. He gave them to the little girl who later brought him a white silk scarf with a dragon embroidered on it. The scarf was saved over the years and then given to our daughter who later gave it to her daughter as she told the story. Our granddaughter (who was 25 at the time) was so moved that she had the dragon tattooed on her inner arm as a tribute to her grandfather and the generosity he showed many years ago. Semper fi....
Having just watched Flags of our Fathers I have a much greater appreciation for these men and their other heroes who gave their life for our country. Thank you for keeping this site in their memory.
i like reading bout the past of the marines it gives me more information than the books do. on what i have to look for in the future when i head out to the marines so than u for putting these information up.
Thank you for what you have done in the Navy, Ray Williams. You make us proud.
I think your right on the money
Ray Williams USN.Retired
i had to do a report on iwo jima and this site helped so much.
This photo says what no words can say, as a soldier myself in the British Army I knew only one thing when things were tough, your friends are akways there for you. No soldier fought for politics or moner or even medals, they fought for their friends in that moment, in that time. They will never grow old as they live on in our thoughts.
All these fine, brave men so different and from such different backgrounds. Then, together they did something that will never be forgotten, ever. This is what our great Nation is all about. Never forget those that gave so much of themselves so we might live free.
May god grant Ira the peace he was denied in life.
These men shall forever be honored and remebered by the United States, and the world, for bringing peace. God bless all of the men and women who served during WWII.
This is really touching and i'm proud of what our country has achieved.
Frank, Thank you Sir for speaking up on behalf of our fallen Brothers and sisters and those that have survived the experience of War's. I too feel like we got a bum rap by those that never served or experienced combat. They need to wake up and smell the coffee before the next War is in our back yards! Just remember this: "Freedom has a sweet taste for those that have fought for it that the protected will never know" God Bless you my friend and Patriot. John DeLion
I think it's just amazing what our troops did then and now. Amen for them! Even with those against war, I understand, but no matter what support the troops.
Just an FYI, my mother is a Sousley (so my grandma's last name is Sousley) and she have pictures and stuff from the Govt with Franklin in it. Pretty cool. Mother showed us all when we were young, didn't mean a whole lot to me then, but after the book and movie came out, I really did some research on it. VERY VERY interesting stuff. Thank you to the troops!
I need your help, i was born in Thunder Bay Ont. Canada and moved to the states when i was 12. Joined the USMC from 1982-1991. I have been fighting cancer i got from the military, Camp Lejeune NC. i have a claim in with the VA and still i am waiting. I live in NC. I need some closure to find out if we are related. I have some info not much, that my great grand father was born in Quebec. I would love to find out if not still would like to visit Rene Sr's home. Hero's are hard to find these days.
Lyle Gagnon
lgagnon@triad.rr.com
I need your help, i was born in Thunder Bay Ont. Canada and moved to the states when i was 12. Joined the USMC from 1982-1991. I have been fighting cancer i got from the military, Camp Lejeune NC. i have a claim in with the VA and still i am waiting. I live in NC. I need some closure to find out if we are related. I have some info not much, that my great grand father was born in Quebec. I would love to find out if not still would like to visit Rene Sr's home. Hero's are hard to find these days.
Lyle Gagnon
lgagnon@triad.rr.com
one of my dreams is to be able to travel to the places these battles took place...i could just emagine what it must have been like to look at those islands and wonder if you would ever see home again...i was in viet nam but we never had to face odds like those....semper fi and god bless all those that didn`t make it back and a job well done. i for one apreciate all they did and the sacrifices they made..... they will be in my thoughts....very brave and wonderful young men just like the ones that died in viet nam! and other wars....semper fi....
Our family was very proud to know that my uncle, Eddie Mandela Daniels, who was in the Army, gave the charge to raise this famous flag. But, because of his African American Heritage, he was not mentioned in any of these reports by these soldiers. Although, this press will not give total credit where credit is due, we know that our uncle did give this charge. He was a chaplain in the Army, on that very site. Further, since American could not show their pride in my uncle, our family has been proud of this trailblazer in our family. Thank you.
Just a short tribute to my Uncle who passed away August 14th 2010. His name was Herbert Wiegel and he grew up in Iowa and lived there most of his life as a farmer and later owned his own construction company. He spent 592 days as an ambulance driver in the Army during World War II mostly in Italy. His duty was driving his wounded and killed comrades from the front line to the field hospital. Special thanks to all those heroic men and women who have served our country.
Thank you for your service to our country. I am grateful as I sit in my recliner today with tears streaming down my eyes thinking of all those before have sacrificed and given in my behalf. I regret that I never joined the Marines when I had the chance. I was always an athlete and wish now I had done the best thing. I just finished watching The PACIFIC and have been on the internet seeing clips and those who served faithfully. I will never be the same person. I hope I can merit what they did for me...
Thank you
Chris
can someone please help me with a couple of questions? interesting movie that i watched and i really enjoyed it. made a big impact on me. what caused the 6 flags raisers to enter the US armed forces? How did the training of the Japanese differ from the US Marines? and How is the clash or cultures between the Marines and the Japanese soldiers exemplify?
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It doesnt matter who you are where you are from or how you served in any war or millitay conflict, you have my utmost respect from the bottom of my heart because you sacrificed everything by putting your life on the line to respect the values and freedoms that every American holds dear to their heart. There is not a single day that goes by that I do not think about all the tremendously brave men and women that fought and are fighting for us every single day. Thank you Jake Angier fitzwilliam N.H
I have read the book Flags of Our Fathers with tears falling on each page. I am now 80 yrs old and when I think back at what my two older brothers of four went through. It more than saddens me to think that all the lives taken during the wars (our men/boys) who had been killed and those who have survived. That we who have survived our service tour of duty. and those who have not expericed hell in it's fullest. Have allowed our country to become the mess that it is today. It is we, the living, who have failed miserably of our falling heroes. It hurts me deeply to believe that our men and boys may have died in vain when THEY believed they were fighting for our County's freedom. I am sorry for speaking out like this, but reading the book and years of living with stories of my friends who experienced battle. I felt that on their behalf I had to speak out. I apologize if I have offended anyone's feeling.
I didn't know much about the war in the pacific, but I found this extremely educational
Still photography is, and will always be, one of the greatest artforms ever devised by man. When you watch the newsreel of the raising of the flag, it looks very simple and ordinary...BUT...the event captured as a STILL PHOTOGRAPH is nothing short of a masterpiece. As a proud working Canadian photographer who has covered news and events for 41 years, it gives me a great sense of pride that Joe Rosenthal was honored for shooting one of the most iconic images of our era. Legend has it that if you look closely at Rosenthal's photo, it shows six men and thirteen hands on the pole...the thirteenth hand?....it is said to be the hand of God, which must also surely have been on Rosenthal's shoulder when he shot that photo.
These people are the hero's of all of us. The sacrifices they made to ensure our freedom cannot even begin to be summed up with a "thank you". All of our Veterans deserve more than they receive.
I have to say, thank you, for all of you Americans contributing to the United States. This website is perfect for school projects. E Pluribus Unum, and Semper Fidelis, my fellow Americans.
To all service men and women alike wether you hail from the USA / UK Canada / Austrailia or other parts (too many to list). From WW1 to the present day you have my upmost respect.
In WW2 both in Europe and the Pacific I say this to you. You are the greatest of generations simply because of what you went through, from D Day to the Island hoping campaigns of the Pacific, "Never in the fields of valor, has so much be owed". I salute you all.
thats very true it just sucks that so many people died
This topic is extremely useful for many things, thanks.
i am doing a wax prodject on the flags of our fathers and my cousin and i love this website it has alot of info on the 6 men
The story of what this war was of and what happened to them and what John Bradley said of them not being heros i feel that he was right but wrong the men there were all heros in someone's mind and to me i believe that they are all heros every man!!!!
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Although I served in the USMC proudly and continued serving my Country in Law Enforcement, these immrotalized Marines and 1 Corpsman are remebered with such distinction due to the vast human costs that WWII invoked on America. I am humbled by these images of these great brothers at arms who served so valiantly. Thank you to all, each and every one, who serve our great Nation with honor and dedication to duty!!!
Respectfully Submitted,
Steve Burden, Cpl. USMC
thank you guys for serving our country you made a big difference thank you.
thanks to this awsome web page i got an a on my Iwo jima presintation.
My Father, James M. Crowell Jr., was a WWII Navy Corpsman, Was Wounded badly at Iwo Jima.
He was always very proud of his Service to this Great Country. Proud of what was acomplished during WWII.
Didnt really like to talk about it too much, but always a tear in his eyes everytime he saw any photo of the raising of the flag!
He has passed down a few of his favorite photos through out the years to us, his children.
He passed a few years back, Now I charish these Images.
The struggles that he went through, During WWII, getting better afterwards and later in life. He never complained, he just overcame...My Father...My Hero!
my grandpa was at the flag raising, next to the guy all the way on the right, he was defending the hill where they were raising the flag at, he has recently passed though.
let those who died on Iwo Jima rest in peace
Chris,
I read your comment about being related to Rene Gagnon. I served with a Lenny Gagnon in the New Hampshire Army National Guard. He also was from Manchester. I am wondering if he is related to you and Rene. Please email me at johnmaz@mchsi.com
If he is related do you know what his email address is if so please feel free to send my name and email address to him.
Sincerely,
John Maslowski
My father fought on Iwo Jima. He said he was at the bottom of Suribachi at the time of the flag raising. He's such a proud Marine. There are items about his home that represent USMC and the flag raising in particular. That was drilled into me while growing up. A few years ago when Joe Rosenthal passed away I thought it might be time to catch a piece of Iwo history on Ebay for posterity. Got a nice first day cover honoring Gold Star mothers signed by Joe Rosenthal AND John Bradley. Double greatness. Dad is approaching 87 and won't be with us much longer. He gets around in a power chair and slowly but surely is fading away into history as his mind ages. But, the mere mention of the United States Marine Corps always perks him up and brings a proud smile to his face. I love you dad.
In an earlier blog, I explained that my father and his 3 brothers were WWII combat vets, and that my two brothers and me are Vietnam combat vets (me-USMC Force Recon, one brother was Army Green Beret, our youngest brother was a Navy SEAL. Our father was a Marine Raider, his brothers were Army Rangers and Army Airborne.
We served as enlisted men (I was discharged as an E-6 Gunny). Each of us was wounded; two of us have permanent injuries. Everyone came home to attend college as well as post-graduate school. Among us are 2 Ph.D. college professors, 2 MD physicians, 2 JD prosecuting attorneys, 1 JD criminal defense lawyer.
Between us, we have enough service ribbons and medals for valor to fill a small trunk. Among our medals are 3 Distinguished Service Crosses, 2 Navy Crosses, 5 Silver Stars, 6 Bronze Stars with several V's, 14 Purple Hearts, and several Presidential Unit Citations.
Regarding bravery and courage, none of us believes that he was especially brave or courageous. Rather, we feel we were doing our job, as anyone would. My father summed up best our feelings about bravery and courage. When I was a little boy, he told my brothers and me that courage is carrying out your responsibilities whether you are sick or well. He said that bravery and courage on the battlefield , just as in every day life, is never letting the person down who is counting on you to do your job. He felt that when you don't do your job, it creates a chain reaction throughout the organization. When this happens on a battlefield, people die, and usually they die quickly. When it happens in everyday work life, people die a slow death, but they die nevertheless. My father's brothers have said similar things about bravery and courage. All of us believe that there has been too much hyperbole about fear. Fear is simply part of the job and needs to be overcome.
Regarding heroic behavior, so-called, or behavior that is considered above and beyond, personally I don't believe there is such behavior. Heroic behavior typically means that someone did what was expected. History shows that people who are in charge of others often feel that they have to create heroes in order to motivate their followers. But when you talk to the followers, they will tell you that they don't need heroes to motivate them. Rather, like wolf pups, and lion cubs, followers need to see their peers and elders doing their job so they can know how to do theirs. This calls not for heroes, but simply for ordinary people leading by example and doing their jobs to the best of their ability in a timely manner.
My favorite WWII movies show such behavior. For example, A Band of Brothers, The Pacific, Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Go Tell the Spartans, The Lost Battalion, A Walk in the Sun, The Cross of Iron.
Semper Fi,
Gunny Jim
As a salior god bless the u.s. and every marine, salior, soldier, and airmen that has ever served(thank you). if your dislike what i have to say, email me at kyle566mm@live.com
My two brothers and I are Vietnam combat veterans (Me--Marine Force Recon, One brother--Army Green Beret, Youngest brother--Navy SEAL).
Our father was a retired Marine (30 years--1st Raider Battalion, 1st, 4th, and 6th Marine Divisions in WWII and Korea). His 3 brothers were Army WWII combat vets--2 Rangers, 1 Airborne).
All of us fought in some of the bloodiest battles of these wars. Each of us was wounded, but all of us survived.
Each of us served as enlisted men--I left as an E-6 Gunny, my father retired as an E-9 Sergeant Major). Everyone came home to graduate from college and post-graduate school. Among us are 2 Ph.D. college professors, 2 MD physicians, 2 prosecuting attorneys, 1 criminal defense lawyer.
Between us, we have enough service ribbons and medals to fill up a small trunk.
All of us believe that the Vietnam War was unnecessary and should not have been fought. We contend that the Korean War was a necessary mistake--that Secretary of State Dean Acheson made a comment in early 1950 that led North Korea to believe that South Korea was beyond the U.S.'s perimeter of interest and defense which then prompted them to attack South Korea.
All of us believe that the Pacific War was unnecessary because the U.S. could have blockaded Japan into submission. Furthermore, we contend that the Pacific War was fought essentially to give the U.S. Surface Navy and Marine Corps a role in WWII.
Furthermore, we believe that both Gulf Wars could have been averted, and that the 2nd Gulf War was not only completely unnecessary, but a moral travesty as well.
Our views regarding Afghanistan are mixed. We agree that it is tragic.
If my family's views seem unpatriotic, we make no apologies. I think former Marine Corps Commandant and Medal of Honor winner, General David M. Shoup, sums up our collective views. Speaking of the Vietnam War, and U.S. foreign policy, generally, Shoup said in the 1960's: "If the U.S. would keep its dollar crooked hands out of the affairs of developing nations, they could and would resolve their own problems in ways that work for them."
Thank You.
Gunny Jim
Just finished reading Flag of my Fathers. One of the best books I've read. I can't imagine this country having the stomach to do what those men did. That was hell on earth. Brave men (boys). . Gut wrenching at times. You truly are the greatest generation.
For those of us that have seen the horrors of war, there is only one word, hope. We want to be treated with respect, and that is all, instead, most veterans feel like outcast. Especially when people use the term "heroism". A term placed by the media on any idiot today. It is with pride and honor that you do your job. Those that die are the true men of heroism. Because we miss them. For us, it takes years to put our lives back together... http://kranik.kiev.ua/
Thanks for putting this up. Great picture of Harlon Block here
http://www.jpagac.com/JOE%20PHOTOS/harlon.jpg
Hope it works-my grandfather is 2nd from right, also hit on Iwo.
Once again thanks for posting this up on the net.
Simper Fi, and then some. True heros. ALL THE WAY, Viper......
Every time I hear about these Soldiers it brings a chill up my spine and it really touches my heart. It shows the true bravery that these men accomplished with little to nothing. I salute each and every one of them. These gentlemen are truly from the Greatest Generation and our finest moment. I can only imagine the sacrifice and bravery that these men gave to all of us and to all of our future soldiers. These men should not be forgotten and should be taught in all the history books to inform the younger generation as to what the WWII was about and what was accomplished.
quisiera expresar mis respetos a un pais tan lleno de patriotismo e historia militar,soy un ciudadano mexicano, he seguido de cerca la historia belica de todos los paises del mundo pero algo que sobresale de EEUU es el valor,el caracter, la hermandad de su ejercito..... desde la 2da.guerra hasta hoy en el lejano oriente encontramos historias llenas de drama pero tambien de heroismo, sacrificio y amor por su pais.....la guerra no es nada que se desee pero a veces es inevitable.... solo espero que algun dia todas las guerras que hoy se desarrollan en el mundo pasen ha ser historia.... dios bendiga a hombres y mujeres que luchan en aras de la libertad.....
The loss of life during war is always sad. Whether it be the Japanese or American soldiers, war is an ugly time. These men fought bravely for their country yet I wish that there was peace so that this could have been avoided. I watched both films by Clint and my heart ached for those naive soldiers that had no choice but to fight. May their souls rest in peace.
I watched Flags of our Fathers, again, and each time my heart swells with pride and with gratitude for a what a generation of Americans fought to provide for the future, our future.
Whether yesterday, today or tomorrow, the American spirit has triumphed in battle over what we, free people, see as oppressive in nature, and when diplomacy fails, we have acted to secure our future and the futures of millions of people around the world.
Truth is that without America, the world would likely be a very much more violent place. All that said, I have read many of the comments on this site and find them to be fascinating; the level of pride as what we as a country have accomplished is based on the deeds of those who took the fight forward with many paying the ultimate price for so doing.
I find the loss of one life to be a unacceptable price to pay but know that in order to secure our freedoms, the price is very regretably life, namely one who is protecting our freedoms, past, present or future.
To that end, I say to all who have lost loved ones in the pursuit of freedom, peace and justice, I submit a humble and reverent THANK YOU for the sacrifices, the losses you have endured.
I truly hope that our armed services lose not another soul to combat...I feel this is however a hope that cannot be fulfilled but nonetheless we can all strive for.
I will continue to honor our servicemen and servicewomen as a brother who has served 28 years in uniform and will continue to support our services out of uniform. I salute all who carry the sword and the shield for our nation and urge all to remember why we fight so hard to preserve Lady Liberty and all that she stands for.
SALUTE!
My uncle was with the Marines on Iwo. I served in Vietnam. I don't think any generation is greater than another, but that we all face different challenges and problems.
I can only imagine the sacrifice and bravery of our American Heroes and their families. These truly was our Greatest Generation and our finest moment.
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DEAR MR. GREENE,
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR SON. MY SON TOO IS A MARINE. DID A TOUR IN IRAQ AND HAS BEEN BACK HOME FOR 5 YEARS NOW. THE DAY THEY CAME BACK THROUGH THE DOOR AT DFW AIRPORT WAS JUST LIKE THE DAY HE WAS BORN. BEST OF LUCK TO YOUR SON. SEMPER FI
PS MY DAD JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE AIR FORCE. WAS AT PEARL HARBOR DEC.7, 1941
Hi, My brother was Richard Pearson 5th division and he also was a machine gunner that protected the flag raisers, I have a picture of him sitting on the ground talking to Ira Hayes with the Mt. in the background. Ira has on his dress uniform in the picture but Dick is in his fatigues sitting in the weeds and Ira is sitting on a rock. Dick was killed March 13th one day before he was to come home he was only 18. I was 7 at the time but remember that telegram like it was yesterday, he is buried in the Punchbowl Cemetery in Hawaii never been there but hope to go someday before I see him in heaven. Sister, Karen
God bless your father. There are so few still with us that were there. I just read Flags of our Fathers.
I have always had the greatest respect for the soldiers of WW11 but even more now. I had the privilege of knowing a few and still have on very good friend that was there. It was an amazing generation of people. I hope more people write about the first hand information of that time so that more young people can appreciate what we have because of their sacrifices.
My grandfather Joseph Mathis fought on Iwo with the 4th Marine Div, 2nd Bn, 24th Marines, G company. I am looking for anyone who has any information about his company or photos. Thanks. I also have photos of my grandfather with Don Thatcher from the 5th Marine Div and also Robert Seymour 3rd Mar div, 9th Marines for anyone seeking information on these Marines. Thanks
My grandfather Joseph Mathis fought on Iwo with the 4th Marine Div, 2nd Bn, 24th Marines, G company. I am looking for anyone who has any information about his company or photos. Thanks. I also have photos of my grandfather with Don Thatcher from the 5th Marine Div and also Robert Seymour 3rd Mar div, 9th Marines for anyone seeking information on these Marines. Thanks
My Father, Edward Phelps from Ky, was in the Marines in Iwo Jima also. He was at the base of the hill covering for the flag raisers. I also have an orignal picture that his friend took along with other pictures of the War. Some are not a pretty sight. My Father received a purple heart and is still living at the age of 84. He still does not like to talk about all he went thru, but he is my hero!!Linda Burton
Today is Memorial Day, 2010. I wish to thank those who served our Country in all of the past and present wars.
I have a Grandson in the Army who is serving in Afghanistan; another who is due to go to Korea in another month;
my Son-in-Law was injured in Afghanistan, my Dad served on the U.S.S. Anne Arundel in WWII.
Throughout the History of The United States, someone from my family served in EVERY War.
My Family is a lot like most of your's, they did "what they had to do" and I am Damned Proud of all of y'all.
Pretty hard to denigrate things like that.
I HAVE THE FIRST ORIGIAL PHOTO TAKEN DURING THE HEAT OF BATTLE BY ROSEINTHAL. THEY RESTAGED THE EVENT, WITH ALL THE SAME MEN WHEN THE BATTLE DIED DOWN A LITTLE TO GET A MUCH BETTER PHOTO, BUT I HAVE THE ORIGINAL...SIGHEN BY ROSITHAL, AND GIVEN TO IRA HAYES. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT,S WORTH BUT I WOULD NEVER SELL IT ANYWAY. MY UNCLE HIT THE BEECH WITH ALL THE REST OF THOES BRAVE MEN THAT DAY.
I just finished reading "The War" by Ken Burns and have watched "Flags.."and have the utmost respect for those who serve and have served so I can have the freedoms I do. Never having talked much about it when we asked him I found out after my father passed away that he fought in the Battle of the Bulge. The horror and sacrifices these men endured humble me yet make me so proud of them and this country. http://www.myfacilitiesmanagementjobs.co.uk
My Dad Fred L. Tipton was at the base of this hill providing cover fire for the flag raisers ... 6000 Marines died in this conflict an my heart goes out to each and everyone of them that served for us in this conflict .. My Dad passed in Alabama on Feb.2, 2010 ... God bless each and everyone of them
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Any time I see a story on war heroes like this it touches my heart.
When someone wants to know about this country or it's past, and what its people are all about ,all they have to know is Strank, Block , Sousley , Hayes , Gagnon , and Bradley . Let them know about each of them ,nothing else has to be said . With all due respect to the first bunch who went up . SEMPER FI.
Wow! First I wanted to say that your grandfather was an amazing man! I'm only 15 and after learning about what he and everyone else did on that island i've changed my complete look on life. Not only did your grandfather and all of the men fight for the country I love. He saved my life..just learning about the things he did made me realize what kind of a person i actually was & where my life was heading..and what kind of person i want to become. I have turned things around and actually now set a goal for myself to go to the Naval Academy for college and become a part of the service. I would just like to let you know that I am more amazed with your grandfather and all of the men he fought with than I have ever and will ever be.
Thank you for your time.
my dad was in the 3rd division,signal corp,saw action from guadacanel and all thru the pacific,i asked him a lot about the war,i just sat and listened,i asked him if he was at Iwo Jima,he said yep,i was on a transport offshore in case they needed us,i missed that party,my dad was my Hero,i still have his corp pics and his Kbar knife,i miss my pop,his name is Roland{rip} E Bayer PFC D 1993
I just watched a movie about our WWII hero Ira Hayes. The movie was very moving and inspirational as it brought tears to my eyes.
In a few weeks, I will travel 300 miles north to the town of my birth Faithorn, Michigan. Each Memorial day, a special service is held at the Riverside Cemetery to honor the war dead who served our great country. A local band plays, a roll call of the war dead and the sound of a bugle call echoes from between the cemetery and the Menominee river. A few years ago, a Swiss doctor friend and his family visited my family and the midwest.
He like many others wanted to learn more about America and our way of life. I told him "Ernest, you will never understand America until you experience a Memorial Day Service." I, therefore, took him to a Faithorn, Michigan Riverside Cemetery Memorial Day Service so he could best understand our values and our way of life. The French Alexis de Tocqueville was one of the greatest observers of early American democratic life. He said "America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. God bless America.
I just finished Flags of our Fathers. I have read numerious books on history. Diaries, Biography's, Textbooks, etc. This book blows them all away. Not only did I learn about the brave men who raised the flag but also some of there friends and loved ones. For me personally when I completed the last page I felt that all of these men were a part of my family. The book moved me in away I never thought words and pictures could. These were ordinary men who lost their today and gave us all out tommorrow.
wow thats really cool
im researching ur grandpa right now
I really love this pic i am 14 years old and my grate uncle was in this pic his name was Rene Gagnon i have grone up with my grandpa and dad telling me storys of him and i hope to be a Marine.
I love your two books( Flags of our fathers and Fly boys) they are interesting and knowledgeable at the same time. This website has helped me a ton on my history project! Thank you and keep writing:)
I've lately been caught up watch the HBO mini-series The Pacific. Even though it shows what a lot of these men went through, it does not place a face of a man who was actually in battle througout the Pacific. My father and uncles were involved in the fight for the Pacific, but I never knew where. I remember stories of him telling me of friends that fought on Iwo Jima, but as for him telling me his own accounts about the war, he never talked about it. I just remember as a kid touching the bullet wounds on his leg. My father passed away in 1991 and I was just 15. Now, I wish he was still around so I could ask him to talk about his service during the war. To all the brave men that fought throughout the Pacific and World Wars and to all the men and women currently fighting in Irag and Afghanistan, I salute you!! For without your galant bravery, our NATION, would not be as free as it is.
my only comment is that i have heard the story about this war i never realyl have thoguht about it before and i thank all the peopel who fought they were all really brave THank you
i think you need to put something in there about Ira gellin about Harlem block. i think there was some confusion as to who he was in the picture and Ira cleared it up by telling Block's father. look it up. put it on the sight. its quite interesting.
When his this cd coming out in May cause this is not the first time I hearad about this
this is an amazing story, i am doing a report on this for social studies, but this report will do more for me than a good grade. it is an awe inspiring story. these were and still are great men.
This is intresting
IRa Hayes, for some reason is who I think of many times I'm so sorry what happened too him after the war. I truly believe he represented alot of the veterans. God Bless You All.
We all love you!!!!!!
Currently I am using this web site to give a speech in college next week about Raising the Flag. I have read a few wall post and to my knowledge a majority of these men have died so the information is just being passed on to their family members. I know this because my grandfather was in the same platoon as the six men raising the flag. Right before they went to battle my grandfather took a photograph with all six men and himself. He unfortunatly was blown up in a tank in the morning of this photograph, but later recovered.I'm very interested in this story. My grandmother always took us the story because my grandpa Richard Carl Schmidt wouldn't. He passed away in 2004 and my grandma knew all of the information. Before she died she said that all but one of the flag raisers were still alive but that was several years ago. My grandfather kept in contact with these guys, and now there story is left to only us to carry on. If these six men have relatives on here I'm sure my father and I would be interested in talking with you.
I'm still reading the book "flags of our fathers" but so far, from the extent I have read, I have cried twice already. I admire the flag raisers for their profound courage, and patriotism.
I'm not an American, but I do know that if a nation should possess a handful of such citizens, with such love for their country, amd such guts, she's blessed.
The movie flags of our fathers captures the conflictions ira hayes felt. I think that the first group to raise the flag should also be honored, seeing as they fought their way up the mountain and put up the flag under enemy fire. We should also think well of the Japanese as they could have been just like our men, eager to serve for our country, not to kill the Americans. Another great movie that takes the American and Japanese side of the war is letters from iwo jima
I have read many of these comments about, Marines,other soldiers, Iwo Jima. My thanks goes out to all who served freely of these United States of America, I salute each and every one of you. Thank you for keeping America free and my freedom! I volunteered my services to the Unted States Army June 6,1979, when I was told I was 4F, it broke my heart that I could not serve my country. I have lived a good life and have served as a Fire Fighter giving to my comunity the best I could. I again salute all of you who have served in all branches U.S. Amred Forces. To those of you who disrespect the flag and those who served it, you realy need to learn U.S. History and why we are free. And what that freedom means and entails. If you don't like it you can leave it. We live in my opinion the best country in the world.
I read the book, Iwa Jima, written by Frank Bradley's son, not long ago, admist many tears. I never imagined how it was in that environment, ever. My greatest respect for these Marines and other brave,fearless,military men and women who served/laid down their lives for the freedoms in this wonderful county, the United States of America. I pray to God Almighty that the men/women will never be forgotten and be held in highest regard. I also pray to God to watch over the United States of America, at this present time, and keep our Nation safe, secure, and free from harm. God Bless America!!
i made a poem about Ira Hayes, because i respect him as a native brother. although im not pima... i am lakoa siuox
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Ira Hayes,Ira Hayes,
is a hero of those days.
He fought the war with couragw and anticipation,
and return to his people with a renowned reputation.
He raised the emblem of our nation,
with 6 fellow soldiers on Mount Suribachi without hesitation.
he was humble and he was shy
but memories of the war would make him cry.
Ira Hayes, Ira Hayes is a man that I would Praise.
This website has helped me so much with a school project i have to do!!!!!!!!!
I cant believe you have such little respect for the people that died for our Freedom. You are the only stupid one here jackass.
I happened to be watching the film Flags of our Fathers and wondered how truthfully it portrayed things... so found this site.
I am saddened by those who have no respect for those who sacrificed their lives for the freedom the western world enjoys. To call these guys stupid (which means Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless). I suggest that this more describes the writers of such dis-respect than those who they use the term against.
Another definition of stupid was Pointless; worthless - as are the comments
That picture of those 5 Marines and the Navy Corpsman is a tribute to all of '' the greatest generation '' it epitomizes what is good about this great country of ours. In the last moments of WW ll our country was tired of war and weary of the sacrifices the youth of our nation had made. That picture inspired this nation as no other picture had or has since. Army, Navy, Air Force Coast Guard or Marine it doesn't matter they were all Americans and were all heroes. As a former Marine I always look at that picture and feel a since of reverence for those Marines and all the others who have served. Semper Fi and God Bless America.
They were all brave people! Good job.
"SIMPER FI" My fellow Devil Dog's. Thousand's of
Marine's before me spilled thier blood for the
future of this Country and the Corps. I think
of that deed it's self. I praise them and thier families.
They gave all with no complaint. "SIMPER FI"
Well said Mr. Lewis. Thank you , sir. I hope the ungrateful brain-dead fool saw your reply.
Semper FI MARINES! Semper FI, my FATHERS...EEEERRRRAAAAGGGGGGHHH!
I was born in Weslaco Texas, and my Dad went to the same school as Harlon Block
It's always heart moving to be reminded of the sacrifices made for freedom and for one's country. I wrote a poem honoring our soldiers in uniform which can be accessed at the link below.
Semper Fi
Patrick
To Whom Honor is Due
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My Grandmother's surname is Block. From Yorktown Texas. Harlon, Rest in Peace. God Bless all of our troops everywhere.
God Bless America!!
I was surprised to see that John Bradley was from Antigo, Wisconsin, which is where my grandmother was born. The group was a true cross section of America. I was also surpised to see one was a Czech immigrant. Diversity is the strength of America!
Your words are strong and leave a great message. I am very sorry for your loss. I have been studying the Raising of the Flag and I am sorry for the non-credit that our nation lacked to give to those who were there first and others who weren't recognized and bodies left behind. I'm a Disabled Veteran and I stand and Salute every single one of them Heroes, Marines, Navy, Army, Air Force, a toast to Hayes and a toast to Charlo. May they al RIP.
I am a US Navy veteran as was my father who served in the 2nd World War. I cannot begin to explain the pride I feel knowing that I served my country as did the men on Iwo Jima. I hope in some small way that I have carried on that great tradition.
“Call him drunken Ira Hayes he won’t answer anymore, not the whiskey drinkin’ Indian nor the Marine that went to war...” So goes the chorus of the late Johnny Cash/Peter LaFarge hit reflecting upon the ironic, tragic demise of one of the replacement flag raisers in the Battle for Iwo Jima, February 23, 1945. Ira, a Pima Indian from Arizona, was not the only, or even the first American Indian to reach the summit of Mt. Suribachi on the 5th of a 35 day ordeal for the U.S. Navy and Marines. Private Louis Charlo, a Bitterroot Salish Indian from Montana was also cast in the drama surrounding the flags that were raised on Iwo, sixty-five years ago this month. The following is my poetic rendition of the Battle for Iwo Jima and Charlo’s role in it. (Editor’s note: This is the final segment of a larger work by Jack Gladstone that will appear in full on his upcoming CD “Native Anthropology” release date of May, 2010.
Remembering Private Charlo
©2010 Jack Gladstone
Iwo Jima
February nineteenth, nineteen forty-five, Tokyo Prefecture
Through sheets of withering fire, the U.S. attacked the Japanese Alamo of Iwo Jima
Over a hundred thousand mother’s sons collided with hell.
By night fall, day four, the sentinel of Suribachi smoldered in cryptic silhouette,
At sun-up, a patrol was chosen to recon its summit
on this team was Private Louis Charlo of the Bitterroot Salish Nation
Four U.S. Marines climbed high above the island
United by the winds of history
Louis, in a letter back home to his folks in Montana, mentioned...
“I was involved in the fracas atop Suribachi”
At 10:20 AM Charlo assisted in raising forty eight stars over Iwo Jima
Mid-afternoon a replacement flag was substituted for the original
Forever captured, immortalized and misrepresented by “The Photograph”
To the American Public “The Photograph” portrayed a battle practically won
but for the island warriors, the battle had only begun
for well over a month it raged, through twenty-four hour days
The disintegration of “Cain and Abel”.
On March 2nd in a firelane sector called “Meatgrinder”
Private Ed McLaughlin, of Boys Town, Nebraska went down, severely wounded
“Semper Fi”! Charlo rushed to his brother’s side and while attempting to carry him to safety
both were killed by machine gun fire…
Charlo, from the line of Salish Chiefs dating back to Lewis and Clark
“Chuck” Charlo, who pleaded for his mom’s consent to serve the nations he loved
Private Louis Charlo, a U.S. Marine who scouted for and helped
raise the first flag on Iwo Jima
Charlo was eighteen.
My grandfather ( mother's father) fou rught in WWII Pacific theater for the USN= Troy Gaines Uzzell.He has been a Figure in the community like Mr Bradley and all his life, no matter where I go, someone knows him and he has touched their life for the better. and First Baptist Church of Texas City is wher eheserved as a deacon for many years.
All his life, he spoke very little of the job he had to do there. Like the men of the greatest generation, there was no air conditiong in sweltering 100 degree heat, mosquito infested swamps and port waters of southeast asia. I have asked him often what it was like. He spoke of depth charges for jap submarines tailing their convoys and long supply convoys they escorted. He is still alive and our family is so proud of him, as we are of all the WWII fighting men and women- they are all heros in my book, as are Korean, Vietnamese, and Gulf War armed service members. God Bless the USA and the men and women who have fought so bravely to preserve our great nation.
I agree with Ed. G, our countries youth would answer the call to
fight for our country. One only has to watch the news today to see
exactly what I mean. To the WWII generation there is no way I can
fully thankyou for what we have today. Your generation of veterans
were my heroes as a young boy and still are today. I now see this
generation leaving us and it depresses me to no end. I served my
country right after graduating high school as to me it was my belief
to first serve my country before pursuing my own goals. I served
active duty then reserves then stayed IRR up to the age of 46. I was asked to go back to a drilling status and did in the early years
of the Iraq war but found after the first drill the injury I had in
the service in my younger years was worse than I thought and I was medically retired. To today's men and women serving our country you
have my gratitude and honor for you are willing to preserve our
way of life at all costs.
My Paternal grandfather fought in WWII in the Pacific Theatre. He was in the Army. When he came back he was an alcoholic and all he did was drive a truck. William T Sherman said it best when he said "War is Hell".
The Few. The Proud. The Marines. Semper Fi.
Today I found myself at the National Military Cemetery of the Pacific in Honolulu. I stood at the grave of Sgt. Henry O. Hansen; one of the original flag raisers. He was not in the Rosenthal picture but in the picture of the first flag raising. Sgt. Hansen was KIA seven days after the photo's were taken. My thanks to all of the men and women of our military.
I would only like to take a small moment to say a few words. I will pass by my political views on the current situation, as you have read it before.
I have lived in another country. I was in Chile for two years, and while i loved the opportunity to get to know another country, and learn another look at the word economics, I now understand the US better. There is truly no better place to live than the Good 'Ole USA!! I was so glad to be back, see the flag flying everywhere (the Chileans cannot fly their flag unless it is their independance day, when they HAVE to fly it, or get fined). I love the decals on peoples cars with the flag on them, or with the "Support Our Troops". Be proud, and be strong. My dad is in the Air National Guard, and three of my great Uncles perished in the Pacific area of WWII, and I will always be proud of our military. they have proved themselves over and over as capable, and amazing.
I thank the Lord for their courage, and strength. I will proudly salute the men and women brave enough to serve us, and hold them in the highest regard.
I humbly thank everyone who has served, and say, from the bottom of my heart, thank you!
As a medically retired Marine, I can say without fear of contradition, Our Marines who raised our flag on the top of Mt. Surabachi knew they were not heroes, but simply Marines doing a job that was assigned to them.
None the less, we Marines still view them as heroes because they thought of themselves as Marines first.
The thing that brings tears to my eyes is the soulful look on the face of Ira Hayes in the photo at the Iwo Jima memorial photo. He served us well and we failed him badly.
I appreciated Adam Beach's performance as Ira, in the film "Flags of our Fathers". He brought home the humility of a man with a good heart, and pain of a man suffering with extreme PTSD.
Semper Fi,
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I am 54 didnot know some of the things read here about the six men who raise the flag,My heart goes out to them and their familys thank you. My son has enlisted in the Marines he will grad, this year in may. June of this year he will go to boot camp he is 18 and enlisted for six years,He has talk about makeing the Marines his lifes work. All I want is for him to come back home when he,s threw with his orders .. alive and well.To all members and their familys that are in the service( thank you )
Just "THANKS"
We the people of the United States have always had brave men and women who give it their all, to perserve freedom for the entire country. The flag rasing photo & monument is a perfect symbol of that bravery & courage.
All Gave Some, Some Gave All.
My Uncle George was in the 4th Marine Division. He was part of five invasions before Iwo.
On Saipan, one of his buddies (Movie Star - Lee Marvin was wounded off Saipan, and spent 8 months recovering in a hospital). My uncle had a wonderful career with The Ballentine Beer Company in Newark NJ before the war, as a young man. After Iwo, my uncle never worked again. He could no longer face minor wanna-be leaders in business, and take orders from them after being with the best leaders in the world (The United States Marine Corps). He lived to be 83 years old. Was one of the strongest, kindest, nicest, funny guys you would ever want to know, but....the one rule was.......never ask him about the war.
In response to Mike's comment about todays youth "I'd be willing to et that if the call went out today as it did in teh 40's, it would not be answere with such vigor. American idol, video games, selfishness, dope and skate boards are entirely too important anymore."
I would have to disagree, Our young people today have answered the call just as our young people of the 40's. Understanding that we don't have a draft in the Twenty-First Century, our military consists of volunteers (men and women) who are all willing to give their all to protect our Freedom. My father landed at Normandy's Omaha Beach in WWII, I'm a Viet Nam Veteran, my son joined the Marine Corps as soon as he graduated from High School and last month my grandson joined the Marine Corps out of high school and is now at Paris Island. I think the people of this great country will always answer the call. After 9-11 young men and women joined the military in droves. I dare say if we were attacked again, like Pearl Harbor, the lines at the recuiter's offices across this country would be around the block for weeks!
I am very proud of all our veterans and I am very proud of America.
hey ppl my papa was in wold war 2 and he is still alife and 1 week ago we whent to dc for iwo jima get to getther so i lerd a lot so i know all about it
My father, Elmer (Bud) Spivey was in Iwo Jima and my Mother tells me he was standing very close to where they raised the flag when they raised it. He survived, but was tortured by the memories. He committed suicide at the young age of 36, I never knew him.
Yazan,
If you love this country and have a proper reverence for our fallen heroes, then you are an American, regardless of anything else. Don't let anyone tell you different.
Thank you for that comment.... I hope that Carter guy reads it and lets it sink in!
Being a Vietnam Vet - every soldier, sailor, marine, airman, & coast guard who faught and died form my country are the real heros. Iwo Jima is a very special place with a very special story
God Bless them all, I truly hope we never forget. I was in the United States Navy 1967-1971. Served in the war as a Sea Bee.
Now I have been involved with firefighting for many years. God Bless all of those before and now who give all they have.
Let us not EVER FORGET 9/11/01 or the wars or all of the heros past and present and pray for our troops serving overseas in todays wars.
As a survivor of the holocaust and a Korean veteran (51-52). We never asked why we fought on foreign soil, we just did as asked. I'm still at loss for words when I get thanked for services to my country (wearing my Korean veterans cap). It was a honour to serve the country that saved my live, and I always will be proud to be an American. Our service men and women deserve our thanks and respect, We the U.S.A. have not declared a war on any nation since WWII, so why are so many killed on foreign soil. ask a non respected selfserving politician and you waill get a answer of double talk, At the age of almost 80 it pains me to see what the politicians have done to this great country. It was with great pride that a person would wear The Colors when overseas. Not any more.. That is so sad.
Mr. Carter:
I too am a Viet Nam vet.
I don't really care how you fel about the country and what you think you did for the country.
The great American heroes led cowards like you many times as did I.
Being proud to have served. Bet you were drafted.
You have the right to post comments like the one you posted and the right to say you have been discrimunated against because of the American soldiers that served with great HONOR AND PRIDE.
You still have a choice....Love the country or leave it.
Home of the FREE....because of the BRAVE. Think I'll exclude you from the brave however.
i am an arab and a muslim, and even though some may call me unamerican for what some muslims have done, the heros at iwo jima are still heros to me.
Iam so proud to have served in the Marines from 1969 thru 1974, and I have found the sacirifice and bravery of these hero's of Iwo Jima, and the downplaying of of heroism by these men that brought me to the Marines.
The men and women of our great American military from George Washington to todays new enlisted oour all heros to me.
Semper Fi to all who have served you make me proud to be an american.
Greg Herrick
USMC Sgt.
As a Vietnam veteran who served in the Army with the 1st Inf Div in Vietnam in 1966 I too am proud of the history of the US Marines! They have a great tradition. My base camp in VN was a little hamlet called Lai Khe up in the Michelin Rubber Plantation. Gunny Sgt John Basilone is my hero. He was killed on Iwo Jima and was the only enlisted Marine to receive both the Medal of Honor and Navy Cross during WWII. Let us never forget the sacrifices of all of our country's servicemen and women!
Semper Fi! Jim Husing, infantry Sergeant VN 1966-1967
This is a beautiful site and I had a tear in my eye reading the stories. The mean spirited comments made on this site are an example of someone who needs a soapbox... and also some therapy to overcome his hatred. For all those who do not stand for OUR National Anthem...There are numerous countries you can chose to move to. So do us all a favor and go.........Thank you!
As a funeral director and embalmer, I had the honor and privilege of serving the family of Anthony 'Tony' Muscarella when he died in Southaven, MS in the 1990's. He had written a book of his account in the Marines, serving on Iwo Jima, having joined the Marines at age 14.
His book entitled 'Iwo Jima The Young Heros' is a dairy of each day on the island. PFC Muscarella won a Silver Star, a Purple Heart and two Presidential Citations, all before he was 18 years old.
"He was the bravest boy I knew. One night on Iwo Jima he killed eight Japanese-and saved my life." Battle Platoon Sergeant C. M. Wesson
All who served deserve our respect.
Carter, ths site is for comments on the Flag raisers. For which it sounds like you dont care two hoots about. I'm sure there are other sites for your pity party, but it seem you can at least you show some respect to the one's that fought and died. Even if you have no honor in country.
I am 63 years old and am part Filipino, Native American (Wampanoag), and Black-American. My six brothers and I served during the Viet Nam War at various times from 1965 -1970. My great-great grandfather was with the 54th Massachusetts (The all Black Regiment under the command of white benevolence), my father fought in the Pacific during WW II and missed the Bataan Death March, because my mother, who fought with the Philippine Scouts, rescued him from that march to which they stayed in the jungles until they cleared the beachhead for MacArthur to return. But to white America, it has no meaning to them. Racial persecution of all blacks has been prevalent in all of the American wars and not only in the military, but even today in everyday life it exist. It is much more sophisticated but it exist and "political correctness hides it". We served our time with no thanks and to this day I do not stand for the National Anthem and could less of any flag raising. Bush was a defacto Commander-in Chief who did not have the guts to serve his wartime committment and had the audacity to send young men to war, just to pad the oil coffers for he and his buddies. Cowardice needs to be re-defined. The so-called "sucessful black", are either regarded as "uncle Toms" or "tokens", and will never be viewed as equals. President Obama is regarded by white America as "let one of 'them' get in, get it over with so'they...us' will be happy and then business can get back to what is before". The treatment of war veterans and military personnel currently serving don't have substantial stipends for living above the poverty level and the treatment at
the VAH is atrocious. I honor all of history's military
personnel who served, but my thoughts are mine and based on my
experience. I served with pride and was wounded in Viet Nam, but America still wounds me to this day. Remember within your own conscience.
For those of us that have seen the horrors of war, there is only one word, hope. We want to be treated with respect, and that is all, instead, most veterans feel like outcast. Especially when people use the term "heroism". A term placed by the media on any idiot today. It is with pride and honor that you do your job. Those that die are the true men of heroism. Because we miss them. For us, it takes years to put our lives back together...
In honor of the dead...
Daniel Otero
Fleet Marine Force Corpsman
1988 - 1992
Semper Fi, Marines.
Terral Olds
USMC SSGT
VietNam 68'69
I am so sorry that you never got the thanks for your seervice!! I am enjoying my freedom now because of people like you, and I am humbled by your service and sacrifice - many, many thanks Glenn!!
My dad was one of the first servicemen to enter Japan, and had an amazing story about catching up with his unit by train, and being surrounded by disbelieving Japanese. My brother was a paratrooper in Vietnam, and my nephew is presently serving in Iraq. We all have a fervent loyalty to our great country, and i am humbled by our servicemen's sacrifice. God bless them all!!
As a Native American I am proud of Ira Hayes. He never considered himself a hero. He was a Warrior. Other people don't don't understand us. We don't want to be heroes. We are wariors protecting our families. The proudest thing a man can be is a warrior and Ira was.
Megwich Ira
Too bad so many use this site as a political forum. All who serve,all who have sworn to "Uphold and defend" deserve to be respected, thanked and appriciated by all Americans. Set service rivalries aside, set politics aside, honor all who have answered the country's call, whatever the circumstance.
Having served in Korea, the "forgotten" war, only once in my life was I thanked for my service and then by an active duty sevice man. Must say, it brought tears to these old eyes. I'm proud that I served, weather anyone appriciates it or not.
GOD BLESS AMERICA, and thanks to all who serve and have served.
2 hear today was the day these men did what they done strength heart & duty ask of them is truly amazing...my thoughts & prays go out 2 each man & his family
I read a lot of the comments but there was no mention of the soilders that died as a result of NAM that came home and died for their country here. I respect every man and woman that has served and protected the rights of me, my children and everyone else in this great country. My husband fought and served his time as a decorated Marine who served honorably, a husband, a father and a friend to any who knew him or did not know him. That is the way a Marine acts (there are no ex marines he told me)with honor and dignity. That I can respect and honor as well. I have lost many friends and family in all branches of the service and a bullet or land mine did not ask their branch or rank, it just took their lives. Nam took more soilders than were killed over there, Agent Orange caused more cancer in more soilders than any other agent that was used in wars. I work everyday to help those that survived the horrors of war no matter which one or who they are because without them we would not live in the greatest country in the world. Argue over which is best but everyone knows that no matter who you are that served you will always be brothers and sisters for life due to the challenges you have all experienced in war and that is something we can only guess at . THANK GOD FOR OUR VETRANS without whom we would all be living in a hell that we never want to face because they did it for us.
Thank you again for your service those that are still living and pray for those that did not make it and are still suffering or leaving families behind 40 yrs later due to that war. We all suffer in our own way and we have all lost someone we love so keep the faith and remember the next time someone trashes our military that they are trashing our families and friends. I lost my husband to it and I pray everyday that no one has to go through what I and my children go through each day.
A PROUD MARINES WIFE FOR LIFE!!
IN MEMORY OF SGT WILLIAM K CORTER USMC
At the moment I graduated from Parris Island in front of the 2nd Iwo Jima Memorial, I came to realize exactly why I had joined...for the honor of the men who had gone before me, to serve and protect this great land and the friends and family that live here. To Renee Gagnon WWII Vet and Lucien Tessier Vietnam Vet; both from my home town of Manchester, NH. Semper Fidelis!
At the moment I graduated from Parris Island in front of the 2nd Iwo Jima Memorial, I came to realize exactly why I had joined...for the honor of the men who had gone before me, to serve and protect this great land and the friends and family that live here. To Renee Gagnon WWII Vet and Lucien Tessier Vietnam Vet; both from my home town of Manchester, NH. Semper Fidelis!
Since you're bragging, tell me exactly what have the Marines done since Iwo Jima? The last memorable event was your Col.Oliver North ordering his secretary to shred papers relating to Iran Contra shenanigans and lie about. As an Army vet I respect all branches of the service and their contributions to the defense of our country. I resent comments that diminsh the value of the US Army's involvement ts.
I have been following this thread for a while now i was in vietnam from 1970 till 1972 thru two tours i was in Anson and Pleiku i had the the very incredible job of flying i was a pilot there and i can tell you first hand how scared i was all the time but i am also very proud to say we saved a lot of lives doing what we did there unfortunately we also could not save them all for this i will always remember those we left behind the cav units were fantastic but the gun units were always the hardest hit when it came to casualties i was with the 181st aviation you can look it up on line i will always be glad to talk to you about this era gone by but not forgotten
"The raising of that flag on Suribachi means a Marine Corps for the next five hundred years."
James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy; 23 February 1945
(the flag-raising on Iwo Jima had been immortalized in a photograph by Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal)
I agree with you Sherry.
Most in our military serve this country, not themselves. It must have been Hell on Earth, but there was an end game more important, and one that they beleived in.
How dare you make a rude statement as such. Were you there, No, I doubt it very much. These men died for what they thought was right and the ones that came home were the lucky ones to have made it out alive. Even though they didn't feel as hero's and the war made them feel the way they did. I too lost a loved one in the war and he was honored as a hero in his hometown. Yes he fought and died for his country, but we have hero's that fight for us everyday; whether it be in the war or the men and women that fight for our safety here at home. They are all hero's no matter who and what they fight for.
I Did Ten and Half years in the Navy But every duty station I got, I Hang around with Marines, My Dad is a Marine my friends in Civilian life are Marines. Its a very close nit of Brotherhood if you ask me. And the Marines have my Respect. Semper Fi
I Did Ten and Half years in the Navy But every duty station I got, I Hang around with Marines, My Dad is a Marine my friends in Civilian life are Marines. Its a very close nit of Brotherhood if you ask me. And the Marines have my Respect. Semper Fi
For Those Who Fought For It Freedom Has A Flavor That The Protected Will Never Know.
The 2nd Cav couldn't bail themselves out much less bail out the Marines.
Shell,
Well stated and well done. May GOD Bless you, your son, and all of the servicemen and women protecting our liberty and freedom here at home.
Respectfully,
Mark
In response to the reply from Sgt. Rock to a comment from Retired Marine. From my 23 years of experience with the military which started in 1969 I have seen many changes in the military and have had extensice contact with all the services. As a Navy HospitalCorpsman FMF, and a member of the National Guard, I've worn the Navy, Army, and Marine Corps uniform. I would never say one is better than another. There are strengths connected with them all, but if I were to go back to active service I'd go back as a Corpsman with the Marines.
I am proud of John Bradley's fine example as a FMF Corpsman, and I am proud that the Marines Consider us Corpsman as one of their own. In the same regard I have seen great improvements in the training of our servicemen and have nothing but praise for all our services. A little rivary and bragging about our service is fun as long as we remember we are one service and work together. so don't take it too personally
Sir, whether or not anyone agrees with what the person in the Oval Office is in this not valid here. This forum is NOT the place to be discussing it. This is a place for honoring those who raised the flag at Iwo Jima. Please take your comments elsewhere. BTW, I didn't vote for him.
Politics, religion, and personal views aside... the men and women who serve or have served in our country's military ALL deserve every American's unending respect and gratitude. Our military is a volunteer service now, so the individuals protecting our right to the freedoms outlined in the U.S. Constitution do so by their own choice. Military members make huge sacrifices of the comforts we all take for granted. They are no longer civilian private citizens, but "property" of the U.S. government. While there are choices they can make and there are benefits to military life, it is nothing like the life we all feel we "deserve". The truth of it is, the life we "deserve" would be non-existent if not for these individuals stepping up.
Even more so, our military during the Vietnam era, as many of the soldiers of that time were drafted and not necessarily content to be there. But, they were there and did what they were sent to do, what they were ordered to do, because that was the oath they took.
The picture of the flag raising in a beautiful symbol of the pride we should all take as American citizens. In my opinion, the most significant aspect of the photo is the fact that none of the soldiers' faces are visible. They could be any soldier from any branch, any rank, any age. It is wonderful to honor the men who were the ones to actually raise the flag. But, in agreement with Ira Hayes, every soldier is a hero. Every branch, every rank, every age, every amount of military service. They make sacrifices EVERY day, that most of us are not willing to make ANY day.
God Bless America!
Proud Mom of a U.S. Airman
Although I do agree with you that this forum is no place for political commentary, I must respectfully disagree with you on one point. We must respect the Office of the President, but we don't have to respect the occupant of same. When I was in uniform I was required to follow his orders but in my mind I didn't have to respect him if I believed he was wrong for the job. All I know is we need to respect and honor those who served and most of all, those who gave all. We all served so that our country would have the freedoms that are all too often taken for granted.
Our country better get it's act together or all history in the past will be ashes to ashes cause someday, someone else will run our country and control the USA and all our proud memories won't mean a thing if our USA is controled by someone else. You don't think the NEW people who will take over good ole USA will care about our wars, hero's and stuff do you? I don't think so!! Tell our congressman, the president and who ever else is in comand we want OUR country BACK before someone else rules us.
USA wake up!!
I just scrolled down through the 120 or so comments made on this site. I am encouraged by the pride that comes out in these comments from those that have served and those who know those that served. Thanks to all of you. I never served (too high in the lottery in 1972) but my son has been accepted into the Navy flight school. I see in him the patroitism & desire to serve that is a source of pride for so many of you.
The political slandering does appear disrepectful of the intent of this site.
Go Navy!
I am so glad to read the support of so many of the sighlent majority.It feels good that there is still so much support for our troops and the positive feeling towards our country. I am one who is so proud of our military history and the men and women who served and gave the ulitmate price and did what needed to be done. My dad served in WW2 as my uncles did also - Navy- and my grandfather was army in WW1 and I felt it my duty to join also to serve. Three tours in the Navy. In some country's right out of high school every young man goes right into the service of his country for two years. Maybe if we had that there would be a lot less gangs and troubled young than there is now. I was 24 when I went in after the draft didn't get me I just went in and joined. I was sitting at a dinner table at a friends house who had German visiters there and I asked the young man what he was going to do after high school - he looked at me and said -- I'm serving my country for two year - its our duty. I felt thats what I should do too and didn't want to miss my chance and went right down and joined with pride and a smile.
I was a SeaBee never servered in battle. Did what I could for the short time I was able. I remember coming home on leave and not many people noticing a man in uniform. which didnt matter at the time, now my son is a marine ready and willing to go to Afganastan in september. The last time he was home and out in public in uniform , people of all ages going out of their way to say thank you and shake his hand, never made me prouder of him or happier to be an American. Its time to thank a man or women who is serving or has served. if not for them but for you. Joey, I love you son... and may safety and respect be with all of our brave troops.......
I too served in Vietnam in 1968. My home base was in Lie Khe. We didn't get any thanks for being over there. It was very hard to accept because we did our job as good as any soldier did. I was in the army and very proud of it. I do admire the marines for thier front line bravery. We do need to bind our efforts together and get this country fixed before its too late.
hey Retired Marine, If the Marines are so much better than the U.S.Army, why did the 2nd Cav. have the bail them out in Nam?
If you look at the video that was taken of the second flag raising on Mount Suribachi, you will see that the flag was much larger than the first and the long pole it was attached to was a steel water pipe that was left by the Japanese. The wind at the summit of Mount Suribachi that day was over 20 knots. Combine all those factors together and you will realize that two men could not have raised that flag. Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz captured the essence of the battle by his remarks.
"UNCOMMON VALOR WAS A COMMON VIRTUE."
Lewis D. Kaslow
Commandant
NW Arkansas Marine Corps League
Vietnam Combat Verteran
John Doe, it sounds to me like you need to figure out how our government is run son. You're probably another ignorant kid growing up in the Mindless era that we call the present. And if you were in the military what branch were you? You sure aren't a West Point grad. To all the rest of you that are here showing your respect to these fine men and the rest of our boys thank you. Lt. Col.(ret) 160th SOAR. Nightstalkers never quit
I love this country dearly. I have never served my country, back in the eighties i wanted to serve but i couldnt pass the physical. But my grandfather served (wwII korea vietnam) my father served, and my brother served (three tours Iraq, 91 03 05). I understand that these men served for me and all other americans. I greatly honor any and all vets, and say thank you, for what you did for me
What a Useful Idiot you are John Doe. Keep hating President GW Bush and leave your eyes closed to what is happening to the Constitution under Barry! When you open them I hope its not too late!
God Bless every one of our young people who choose to serve and fight in a conflict brought to us by those who hate the USA and our citizens!!
you cant even prove that this president was born in the USA why support what he does..its sure not for us,VietNam here thanks for those that served with me with no respect
Stories like this give me great pride, yet great saddness. So many young men lost their live in wars never to have enjoyed a long life with their loved ones or friends. It always makes me sad to thing that some have never married or had the joy of children, grandchildren, the thrill of their first new car, and so many things others take for granted.
Thank you to all who have served, thank you to those that came home and those that didn't. You have my undieing love and resepect, and the reason why I fly an American flag on my house every day and will until I am no longer living.
Show some respect here. Be worthwhile of the sacrifices that have been put forward on your behalf. Keep your whining to a minimum, and take your hat off during the playing of the National Anthem.
Joel Bohm
Former Marine
Thank you for serving. I am sorry and ashamed that you and anyone else who served their country were ever treated with such disdain. I don't understand it, how we could turn on our own with such venom and hatred...and as an American citizen, I want to say again: Thank you and I am saying sorry for those who SHOULD!
Thank God for the Heroes of The United States Armed Forces. If it weren't for them we would not be writing these comments. They have fought and died for our right to have freedom of speech. My husband served for 30 years and now both our sons are serving their country. I am very proud to be a Military Wife and Mother!!!
God Bless Our Troops and God Bless the United States of America!!!
Very well said Cynthia! I am a generation "X"er (we're the 1st MTV generation and supposedly have the attention span of a flea) and just want to thank all of our veterans!Particularly the WW2 ones,for the freedoms we have today.Too much political correctness going on and people bashing our own country!IT IS THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO FOUGHT GERMANY AND JAPAN THAT HAVE GIVEN YOU THE LUXURY TO DO THAT!!!Wake up and be grateful and proud to live in the greatest country in the world! As a mother all I can do is try to instill the significance of what those boys did on Iwo Jima and throughout the war,to my children,and as "Private Ryan" said at the end of the movie try and live a live worthy of their sacrifice! Sincerly,From someone truly grateful.
You certainly need to look for a new country....and meds...you are one depressed individual....as for death and killing...read the Bible...it has been going on since the beginning of time...
I am new to this site, but I humbly ask that we enter this site with respect and dignity that is due to all the Men and Women who have served, honored and died for our country. This should not be a political venue, but only one where we can show the true colors for our veterans. We all know that we have the freedoms to say what we feel, but it is because of these very people that we do. Yes we all know that it only takes one marine or solider or sailor or flyer to raise a flag, but maybe it really takes an entire Nation. With respect, love, humility, gratitude and above all honor and thanks all of those who fought, died and yes made it home. Like Ira Hayes, I feel his guilt.
Just a former grunt -Vietnam Vet.
Our country is so geat because we ae all so different and able to freely exress our differences.I am a Viet Nam Army vet.Thosemen were as different as we are with very diverse political opinions..but..THEY were able to put naside their differencesto fight together,for the good of the group.Soldiers dont defend their country as much as they fight for the safety of their fello soldiers.We can all learn from such sacrifice.Its not pariotism but "TRUE FRIENDSHIP" to the bitter end.
john doe You Must have been in the Army. It would take an entire Army Division to have raised the same flag and thats in peace time, in the middle of a war two Divisions. But then the Army don't have much of a history to brag about either except for cheating on tests at West Point.
I met Rene Gagnon once as a teenager. He was a HS classmate and friend of my father and uncle. He led a far more difficult life than you have stated. He suffered as much or more than Ira Hayes.
Ira Hayes suffered the guilt of surviving a war. Many people would say that he should have felt very lucky to have made it home. I do not think men who go to war and come home always feel that way. I know how he felt and I think of him often.
Joe DAgostino, SGT. USMC Vietnam Vet.
I believe before my father died, he told me that he was at the bottom of the hill watching them raise the flag.....always made me very proud.
Hello,
My Father Wilfred Roland Joseph Berube III was a cousin to Renee Gagnon. He was always proud of that. He even had a poster of the raising on his wall and a photo of it in one of his credit cards. I am not sure which side of the family he was a cousin of, but my grandmother was Irene Cloutier (later Berube and then Katz).
Really, how many marines does it take to raise the flag....I was in the military and it doesn't take six. My sergeant would have told me to go put it by myself....maybe with some other private. Go Airgone n the military as a whole...
People don't like Iran or China but they surely do think like them..the U.S., China and Iran are the few countries in the world with the DEATH Penalty.
Why?
does it stop murders? I don't think so.
These crazy dirt piles, Mt.Suribachi,Pork Chop Hill,Hamburger Hill. Our men take them, and give their all doing so!
"They are all heroes".I salute them all........
8 Hours after being shot at in VietNam you were spit at in Oakland California......hmmmmm think about the flight time again ,I think it was 20 hours from Japan when i came home !!
Anyone @ Camp Lejuene look up www.TFTPTF.com or type in poisioned Well/Drinking Water from 1957 onward
Where were you guys when Mr. Bush was in office, he almost raped our US Constitution...and didn't listen to the people. President has done a lot more than the previous did in eight years. He stopped the economy from going in to a depression, two failed wars are now heading towards a more suitable ending. Our debt when Mr Bush took office was a surplus..he left it with trillions in the hole...didn't care about the people...lost millions of jobs, home prices fell about 60% of its highs, Foreclosures, families left out on the streets, banks making money..and now you "want to bad mouth your country"..An Officer and a Gentleman...
"I can't believe what I am seeing here"..An Officer and a Gentleman..
The Economy is turning around, unemployment rate didn't go to 20%...Rome wasn't built in one day or one year...you expect this administration to fix the problem Mr. Bush left us, 8 years of failure...amazing...please.
The numbers you state have stopped me in my tracks. 29,000 American casualties, 22 ships over 8 back. I am at a loss. My dad served in the Navy in the Pacific. Never talked about it much. Just came home like so many,raised a strong healthy American familiy. To all men and woman of the greatest generation; Thank you.
Nicely put ma'am.
I am glad to see that most people who have posted here support our troops and government. I am a former Vietnam Infantryman, my father was a B24 Radioman in WW2 and two of my 5 younger brothers served in the Navy. We are proud to be Americans and honor all who have fallen and have served. Because of their bravery and determination, we can elect our government and have a voice in how it is run. I did not vote for Obama but support him. I think the Democratic Party needs stop and listen to the public and stop trying to ram their agenda through congress. And, oh yes, I am a Republican from Southern California (yes, there are some here).
Thanks to all of the veterans for giving me the right to post this! Can’t do it in Iran or China.
No way. Ira Hayes, as stated in the biography, was a Pima Indian. He returned to the Reservation after being released from active duty and remained there for most of his life. There are books and a Johnny Cash song about him. One story is that he hitch-hiked from Arizona to South Texas to tell the parents of Harlon Block that it was Harlon in the picture, not the person originally identified by the Department of Defense.
Freedom of speach gives us the right to comment on the President. Not agreeing with him is not showing disrespect. America was founded and based on Christianity. I believe he is ruining the country and destroying our freedoms. He has lied to us on many occasions and you say we are not to speak out? He has degraded America to others.
I believe not speaking out is what has gotten us to where we are. The senators and congressmen do as "they" wish not what we ask. We are paying their salaries and it is time to band together and speak out, otherwise all the marines that fought for our freedom may have fought in vain.
Actually, one was a sailor- Navy Medical Corpsman Bradley.
Mike...
I couldn't disagree with you more. Barak Obama has done nothing in my opinion that inspires me as a veteran . Quite the contrary , I believe it is my duty as a veteran and citizen to use my right of free speech to help affect change in Congress and in the White House in 2012. USMC13
Yes there were two flag raisings on Iwo. Here is why; the first flag was small and not quite visable for all to see. The second larger flag was raised so that the ships off shore and every one on the island could see the flag and more importantly Surabachi was in American hands thus boosting morale. The second flag raiseing group were not picked or selected for the task ... they just happened to be there and posted the colors.A number of them were killed right after the raising. The photographer (Rosenberg) did not even know that he had capured that particular pose, he actually missed the one that he intended to take. Rosenbergs famous image that was discovered in the Photo development labs. The photo was published and then the hype of the event took place. Initially there was great question as to who actually participated in the event and one mis-identified flag raiser had to be recalled. The marine Commander who brought the second flag and kept the smaller flag was killed on Iwo some days later.
Keep this in mind .... all the flag raisers were Marines and doing more than just a "job". Iwo like many other Pacific island battles were bloody and costly events. Be thankfull that we have that particular photo as it is certainly inspirational. Pray for thoes that have served and do serve today for they are the warriors that stand in front of our enemies.
PS; Iwo Jima alone cost 29,000 American casualties. Lets put that into perspective: 22 troop ships carried the Marines there; ony eight ships were requires to remove those that survived.
Thank you and God bless all that serve, we all owe you much.
Quit knocking the Present President of the US, we got some problems and the only guy that has the majority of Americans interests at heart is the President. We have some serious problems and since our govt and the laws of finance they passed ten years ago, they need to be fixed. Support our President as he is fighting one hell of battle.
A Veteran and son of Career Veteran.
If you are proud to be Veteran, remember your oath to uphold the Constitution and take orders from the Commander in Chief who happens to be the President.
Bush lied to the American People, and got us into a Trillion dollar war. I still supported him, however, I despise him for the wrong he did this country.
Our only hope is what this President does and Congress but so far our Congress is so political it cannot conduct the business of the country.
If those guys don't get off the dime, every one of them should be kicked out.
If it wasn't for men that made the sacarifies they did the world would different(for the worse),even if it was before my time,i will forever be greatful. my dad was marine combat vet. during WW2, he remembers clearly that historic day, as he fought on the pacific islands. once again thanks marines.
So, The real flag raising, i.e. the first one, occurred two hours earlier. The men were: 1LT Lieutenant Schrier, Sergeant Thomas, Sergeant Hansen, Private First Class Charlo, Private First Class Michels, and Corporal Charles W. Lindberg.
I live here in Somerville, Massachusetts and my property borders the "Henry Hanson Memorial Park" (Sargeant Hanson). He grew up in Somerville, and I knew the elders of his family when they lived across the street from this memorial on Medford Street. He never made it home, but his name and story lives on here at the memorial. That day's happenings were part that the original flag was too small to be seen from the base of the hill, and part that they wanted a better photograph to publish. While the men who appear in the famous photograph are no less heroes for their service, it is a shame that the original men are seldom recognized this day!
You can read all about it here: http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/iwoflag.htm
Two replies...
Vietnam Vet- you're "sure he would have shown up for duty"...I'm sure he would have SAID he would show up but would have found an excuse not to...he's not pro-american but great with the B.S.
Highest Respect2U- I was born way before you and don't sit at a computer all day long...I work hard for my living and as far as "dissing" a man who is a "retired member of the proud military"..that's what the guy posting says but I can say I'm a member of Congress but that doesn't make it any more true than BHO saying he's the 1st black (not 1/2 black)and that also isn't so.
PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN...can Barry Hussain Obama say that and mean it? I CAN!!!
My Dad served in the Aleutian Islands during WW2 with the United States Army. I served in the Army from 1970 to 74. My 19 year old Grandson just joined the Army a month ago. I honestly tried to discourage him from doing so. But, what do you say to a kid when he looks you dead in the eyes and says to you,, "Papaw, you served, my Great Grandpa served, I love my country and I want to serve it too".Suddenly you realize that he is not a "kid", he is a young man and you feel proud of him,and proud to know that you had a hand in raising him right. Am I scared for him? Hell yes!! I do not want him to have to experience the things that I know he will have to.But, I also know that I am proud of him and proud of all our troops. God be with them all.
Rene Gagnon was my cousin that I had never met.I first knew of him when I returned from Germany and asked my sister what the image of a flag raising on the mantel was all about.She proudly said that is your cousin Rene and that our father had several discusions with him as to how dificult it was for him to advance in his job at the Mill since he was frquently called to go on Bond Tours.He made the best of it all but felt somewhat embarrassed about it all.Rene died leaving his widow with a house mortgage but thanks to the many fine organizations in Manchester NH she has been taken care of. Salut Rene ,I am sorry we never met.
As a Marine Corps combat veteran, I am very proud of the heritage we have. I believe the three surviving flag raisers were not treated properly as war heros by our country after the war and that is something we as a nation should've been ashamed of, but we can honor their service and sacrifice by never being too busy to remember Februray 23, 1945.
Hey Handy Randy!
You are correct! The real raising occurred two hours earlier. The men were: 1LT Lieutenant Schrier, Sergeant Thomas, Sergeant Hansen, Private First Class Charlo, Private First Class Michels, and Corporal Charles W. Lindberg.
I live in Somerville, Massachusetts and next door to the "Henry Hanson Memorial" (Sargeant Hanson). He grew up in Somerville, and I knew some of his family when they lived across the street from the memorial on Medford Street. He never made it home, but his name and story lives here at the memorial. It was part that the original flag was too small to be seen from the base of the hill, and part that they wanted a better photograph to publish. While the men who appear in the famous photographs are no less heroes for their service, it is a shame that the original men are seldom recognized this day!
You can read all about it here: http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/iwoflag.htm
I cannot believe people would use this forum to post political remarks. I'm damned proud to live in a country where BHO was elected president. Maybe he never served but I'm sure he would have shown up for duty after taking his oath unlike a former president. I'm so glad to see today's veterans treated with honor. It was many years before I would admit to being a Vietnam Vet due to the treatment we recieved after arriving home. Exactly 8 hours after I was last shot at in Nam 2 young girls spit on me and called me a baby killer in Oakland, California.
Only when men "learn war no more" according to God's will, will there be peace on earth and an end to the anguish such as these men experienced.
I hate to get in on this, but Logic4U stay out of their argument. Also do you really think you should be making fun of someone that served this Country so that you could have the freedom of speech you are using right now. And also i'm going with the fact that you are someone that was born during the age of computers and sits at one all day long so you can type correct but should you dis a man that fought for you, on his diction and spelling...Hello he didn't go very far in school he enlisted to ensure you could move farther in your education have a little respect. He is right, even though i don't agree with the President that is in office, and think someone else could of done a much better job than he is right now... he still won and should get the respect he deserves and also he calls himself the first Black President therefore we are too..He is the one that didn't count his Caucasian mother so don't dis a man that is trying to speak "politically Correct" I'm not trying to be mean or get anything going but you are being mean to a man that was born and raised to respect the highest authority, a man that pledged his life to his country and he is right no matter if you agree or disagree you should still show a little respect. Just because you have freedom of Speech doesn't mean you should over abuse it!!!
All survivors who fought on IWO JIMA would say the same thing 'I was not a hero but those who died there were'. Ira was one of them. perhaps what should have been asked of the flag raisers was 'As the surviving Iwo Jima flag raisers, we want you to represent the hero's who died on Iwo Jima so the country can honor them through you'. Maybe this might have helped Ira Hayes overcome his feelings being called a hero while most of his buddies were left behind dead on Iwo. But all of the Marines for fought there and survived that vicious battle will still be hero's in our minds....
I met Rene Gagnon once as a teenager. He was a HS classmate and friend of my father and uncle. He led a far more difficult life than you have stated. He suffered as much or more than Ira Hayes.
In the annals of Marine Corps history, there is no battle that stands more important. The Marine Corps Memorial in Washington D.C. memorializes the brave Marines and Navy Corpsmen who gave the last full measure of devotion in that battle and all wars in which the Marines have fought. God bless the United States Marine Corps.
Lewis D. Kaslow
Commandant
NW Arkansas Marine Corps League
Vietnam Combat Veteran
Former SeaBee. Now 83. I am the one of the luckiest guy in the world. After reading the blogs, I thank all the Men and Women in the Military, who kept and are keeping us safe. Ira Hayes, now you rest in peace. The boozers should learn by your ending. RIP.
Paul, I would like to see the pictures that you aquired after your Dad's passing. You have every right to be proud of your Dad and the other veterans who fought and died in countries far from their homes. Truly these veterns are owed our gratitude.
I AM FROM A SMALL TOWN IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS. (FLORA) I THINK IRA HAYES WAS ONE OF MY PRIMARY SCHOOL TEACHERS IN THE EARLY 1950'S. CAN THIS BE TRUE? I WONDER IF ANY ONE CAN CONFIRM THIS.
THANKS,
JOHN
AA was in existance since 10 June 1935. It is a shame someone could have reached out to Ira and possibility saved his live!
To "A Proud American"...BHO is NOT the first black President...he's the first HALF black president or doesn't his Caucasian mother count?
Your diction and spelling are horrendous...you should have stayed in school past 3rd grade.
Let's not get into politics but it's safe to say that if the election were held today, without all the hype and "Hope" and "Change", Elmer Fudd would beat BHO.
I agree with the comment by Jarrett Crumrine EXCEPT he has a myopic view...Protestants ARE as much Christians are are Catholics...wake up man!!!
Mr. Kennedy
As a retired member of our proud military, I am ashame of you and other like you because no matter what you may think the country elected the first Black president, and no matter what he is the PRESIDENT of the USA. And, as memeber of the military (even a formal) you are still require to give recept the office. You comment lack any of that. You, I and other ex-military sworn an pledge to protect the USA and recept the office of the officers and lead of the USA. This includes the office of President.
You need to pray for the President of the USA and NOT make any degrading remarks since he is the commander and chief.
The reason I say this because many people are upset over the fact he is the President and has been under a microscope since taking office. The President has working on things which the last admistration left him. So therefore the president's first year is really the affect of the last adminstration. His real admistration does not start until 2010. We have yet seen the affect of what he is doing so therefore give him a break because the American public gave all the other Presidents a chance of at least the first year. But President has not been given the chance and I belief it is just because of race.
So therefore I am really ashame of the whole USA because he is just one man and he still have to deal with 100 US Senators and 435 members of the House. So therefore if you are one person at the top and there are a total of 535 whom you have to get anything done then tell me how can you do it.
My father, Homer E. Morgan fought the Battle of Iwo Jima, for the full 36 days. He never spoke of it. He always said the real heros were those that did not come back. Dad died Sept 29, 1977 on day before his 54th birthday. I think of him every day. God Bless the boys in the USMC.
Being a former member of USMC, we should all take a brief moment to remember those that were left behind on Iwo Jima. It is to bad that we now have a President who has no idea of what it means to serve their country, but to destroy it. Semper Fi.
"GOD BLESS, THEM ALL" THIS IS WHY WE'RE THIS GREAST NATION OF ALL!
I PROUDLY SERVED 26 YEARS IN OUR MILITARY. SACRIFICE AND HARD WORK IS THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA. MAYBE WEE WEE SHOULD JOIN THE IRA, THEY LIKE SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE BACKBONE.
I have met a lot of WWII Veterans, and I'm an old Vet myself. But what we did in the closing days of that SE Asian War was Nothing compared to the Bravery and Sacrifice of those Folks of the Great Generation. We are losing them every day, and the Country as a whole suffers a loss as they pass on. We are Free...becaue they Served with Honor, Bravery, and Dedication.
I personally met a man that said he was there when the photo was taken. He said that the actual flag raising took place with a smaller flag and three soldiers. The reporter caught that action and didn't think it was a bold enough statement so he asked them to recreate the scene using a much larger flag and more soldiers to make a stronger image to send back to the states. This man that I met was a Walmart door greeter in Somerset, Kentucky. I wish that I had taken the time to write his name down but in my rush, I did not and he no longer works there. He knew all the soldiers involved and said that they didn't like the idea of staging that photo. I guess when the media made such a fuss over the survivors, it made them feel guilty and ashamed.
My father served in the US Navy and was at the Battle of Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Semper Fi to the brave US Marines, Army, and Navy who were there.
"All gave some and some gave all." God Bless the USA and the memory of those military heroes who still give us the freedom of free speech.
Robert J. Blok, Sr.
COLONEL, US ARMY
Hey PeePee, sorry I mean WeeWee, oops sorry again. Well whatever your name is, your village called, they said they miss their idiot and wish you would return home.
And if you don't want to stand behind our troops while they defend your freedoms, PLEASE feel free to stand in front of them.
Sioux Warrior, My heart cries for your people, and I revere their continual sacrifice. I hope your people will continue to celebrate life and your accomplishments.
Having served I too value all service members contributions and honor their commitment.
War on foreign soil is a reflection of the American government, War on your land is a reflection of greed and selfishness. For this reason, I meditate and search for a peace to come to the history of the American Indian, and all that you have given this country. Thank you.
Reading about the brave men who raise the flag, I salute you with the highest honor. I could never imagine the horrific scene to win this battle. The men in our family and cousins serve to protect this country over 180 years and I and the clan would do it again for our freedom.
You are so WRIGHT. We often over look the warriors that go to war, just because of the there color. May the great spirit be with you.
My prayers of gratitude for all those who served have been, and will continue to be, said until the day I am delivered into the hands of my loving Savior. They ALL were heroes, especially the survivors. They had to live with the guilt and remorse that they got to come home, when so many of their buddies didn't. I pray they came to the understanding that God had a purpose for them to return, and that they did their best to fulfilled it.
I joined the US Navy as a Hospital Corpsman in 1977 and served 10+ years on active duty and in the reserves. I remember the "Hall of Honor" at Corps School in Great Lakes, with portraits of the Corpsmen who had given their lives for all of us. I spent many hours there, paying my respects. Their heroism and sacrifices motivated me to do the best I could to learn the skills to be a good Corpsman. I came to serve in US Naval hospitals and with the US Marines as a Fleet Marine Corpsman.
It has always been a paradox (disappointment with gratitude) in my life that I served during a time of relative peace; a peace bought by those men and women who served before me, and after me.
Thank You and God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America. Semper Fi.
I am Sioux. Born to a tribe of warriors. Volunteer in '67 at the age of 17. Brother died in '71, at Lai Khe...Many of my people have served...and many are serving now...War is a hard thing and u need to support and honor your warriors...my people do. Many thanks to those that do. May Tunkasila guide you, and protect you, and your loved ones, on your path in life.
These men were part of the greatest generation of all. My dad served and he introduced me to a friend who survived Pearl Harbor and, to a man or woman, they were proud to serve, felt it was their duty, and were humble about it. I can only imagine how much more could be accomplished today if our current leaders would put country ahead of self like these young people did.
These men (and women) are heroes. Thank you to all of them for their service and sacrifice. I owe my comforts today to them!!
I was present when Ira Hayes was buried there in Sacaton Arizona I was about six years old and my dad told me NEVER
forget this event .When i came back from Vietnam some of the old
people remembered me and my dad we where one of many Mexican-Amercain families living amount the Pimas in a fram workers camp
so much pride to carry on Mr Hayes would hve been better of if
they would have lefted him along .
I went to Viet nam and can appreciate those who fought at Iwo Jima. Wars have been fought for many reasons. None were as important as WWII. All who fought and supported our troops should be applauded. On the other hand Pee Wee showed me that the Irish war being a war between the Christians and Protesants shows that the IRA is against freedom unless its their way. Crazy
All Americans should take one minute today and say a prayer of thanks for these brave men. The most touching book that I have ever read was "Flag Of Our Fathers" written by Mr. Bradley's son.
My father served in the US Navy and participated in the So Pacific all the way to Okinawa. The older that I get, the more touching these events become to me.
Thanks to each and every vet involved in any conflict to protect this wonderful country.
Amazing....I am a American and proud of it. That is the way I was raised. I feel sorry that some people do not appreciate where they live and what America stands for. We have the most precious gift in this contry one can have and that if Freedom. For the people that don't like the way this country is run whay do you even stay here. Go back to where you can enjoy the killings, being hungty, being homeless and have no rights at all.
I've never been in the military but my grandfather was along with many family members and friends. I grew up listening to my grandfather's stories in amazement of what he and many other soldiers did for this country. Needless to say I am VERY PROUD of him and what he did! GOD BLESS AMERICA
Words cannot express the pride I feel knowing that I am related to such a brave man! I proudly wear the Gagnon name!
Part of my family are the Gagnon's of Manchester NH. Growing up, Rene Gagnon was at many of our gatherings. The last time I saw him was at my cousin Bill Gagnon's sending off party in '68. He went to Viet Nam, Rene had a long talk with him privately before leaving.
Rene Gagnon became a very quiet businessman, then a public employee, and died tragically in the 90's. The Marine Corps League, VFW, and Legion raised a lot of funds for and took care of his wife. Marines take care of there own.
Thanks, and Carry On to my fellow vets.
Good for you Russ.
God bless you!
While don't you chill out! I served 2 tours in Nam and was wounded on each tour! Being in the military doesn't give you the right to abuse or threaten people. Understanding of course that in combat things happen, but we should not be proud of them, but only proud of our contribution to the effort. People don't have to leave this country because they don't like it and you are in no position to tell them to either.
Our fight for our country contributed to the liberty of all in this country. It did not give us individual rights to deny anyone that same liberty for any reason. Liberty does not mean happiness! Remember my friend it was people that didn't like what was going in this country many years ago that changed this country!
I hope one of these days you get to experience what happens in war. I have had many family members go to war so i can live the life i live now. I hope one of these days you will understand the sacrifices these men give up everyday just to be in the forces. I'm not only talking United States, but your forces too. They give so much to leave their families and back then, a lot of them never came back. You should appreciate what happened in that war and should be happy that the whole world is not under communism right now.
The Marine Corps War Memorial
(Iwo Jima)
Said a Vet from Nineteen forty-five,
"Men were dying by the score."
An eyewitness to a famous Battle
Immortalized forever more.
Quartermaster on a LST
"Eyewitness to a sad, horrible day."
"A slaughter right there on the Beach"
Is what, this Veteran had to say.
Coast Guardsman Robert Resnick
Was more than just a witness there
He furnished the Stars and Stripes
In that picture all generations share.
A symbol for the Marine Corps
Cast in bronze for all to see
The Flag raised on that mountain top
Is part of our Nation's History.
One of the bloodiest Battles of the War
Fought for thirty-six days and nights
More than twenty two thousand Japanese
In one of the Marines fiercest fights.
The first part of Japan we invaded
And as Resnick's ship sat on the beach
Marine Gagnon asked him for a Flag
And a long pipe to raise it's reach.
They lost their sight of the Marine
As he headed to that Mountain top
Amidst the gun's bullets flying
That never, ever seemed to stop.
As they began to leave the Beach
A tremendous cheer went all around
And, "Every ship tooted it's horn."
As they raised the Flag that he had found.
For years another was credited
Until the year, Two thousand-one
When at a Fifth Marine Convention
The Marines learned he really was the one.
A big, old Marine bellowed out,
"Do you really mean to tell me,
That you never realized that you
Won that Battle, single-handedly?"
The President of the Fifth Marines
Made him an honorary member
And as they did some tears were shed
As they all began to remember
About that day sixty years ago
Up there on Mount Surabachi
When the Stars and Stripes were raised high
Was still a vivid, cherished, memory.
Del "Abe" Jones
abeabe@att.net
Laura,
Here's a wonderful poetic tribute to your dad and his quiet but powerful contribution to our nation's wartime history.
Mr. Del "Abe" Jones from White Bluff, Tennessee wrote this fitting tribute based upon his reading and awareness of Bob's story published in our Coast
Guard Reservist Magazine (by Judy Silverstein) this past summer.
A resident in the building were I work was a marine on Iwo. He passed away two months ago, I have read two books concerning that battle from his collection. Those men went through hell on that island and never stopped fighting. Fred never talked about what happen there, just wanted me to read the books. They are as follows: 1. Surgeon on Iwo By James Vedder
2. Iwo By Richard Wheeler
3. Iwo Jima By Bill Ross
Read these books if you can...
In FEB.1955 several shipmates & my self climed to the top of Mt. Suribachi on Iwo Jima. The flag-raising at Iwo Jima symbolized the very best in American patriotism and valor. Just the climb
was long & hard in peace time I,ve tried to see this under there
condition I stood in awe with respect to them "GOD BLESS THEM ALL"
"GOD BE WITH ALL OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHERE EVER YOU ARE"
"THANK YOU EACH AND ALL"
Gene
My Father,Walter(Sandy)Ellis was in the navy and operated a langing barge at Iwo Jima. He never said much about it. He said that its hard when you drop the ramp and half of the men unloadinf die in front of you. His barge was hit and a marine captain told him to grab the 30cal and that he was now a marine. I learned alot from him. I told him when I came back from Nam I understood what he mint about men dieing in battle. They are the true hero's. May God hold each one of them close to his heart.
Donna,read some of these story.
God blesss them.
r i p
My father retired/deceased Msgt Harly W Jenkins was wounded March 51h 1945 while fighting on Iwo Jima. God Bless them all. Semper Fi
My wife is a surviving cousin of SGT. Clifton E. Taylor, USMC Paratrooper who died on Mt. Suribachi on 10 Marh 1945. She is a Lifetime Associate Member of the 5th Marine Association. Cliff will always be remembered by the family as a hero. I tried find more info on him, but have not been successful, although we know he received the Silver Star for heroism on Iwo. An American Legion Post in Elletsville, IN, where he was born, was named in his honor, although the post expired sometime later because of lack of members. Semper Fi Cliff! RIP.
I LOVE U! ;D
Having served in the Nat'l Guard and NavalReserves for nigh twenty-five years, which most recently included being deployed for "Operation Iraqi Freedom", I cannot feel a sense of closer recognition and respect for all others who have served before and after me.
Reading about what the Flag Raisers and their commrades did, becomes much more alive when one is deployed into batle. I can fully understand and appreciate their sense of humility, now having it myself.
We must NEVER allow any generation to forget, even the most minute detail, the sacrifices made by those who served on Iwo Jima and in ALL battles.
Smoke may clear, guns may fall silent, but, the impressions left behind NEVER fade and must NEVER FORGOTTEN!
I would like to say thank you to all who serve our country. My granfather, Richard Barrett, served in Vietnam. My father, Steven T. Barett, has served a tour in Iraq and may be going back. My older brother, Steven H. Barrett, is an enlisted marine. I would like to again say thanks you to everyone who has served. I cry every time i see or read pictures or articals about war or the raising of the flag. I wish everyone the best of luck and health.
My father Carl T.Jones also landed on Imo Jimo. He told us a few stories about the war. I will always be proud of him. My brother Thomas P.Jones was a Marine also and served in Vietnam and my grandson Zachary G. Gillespie is currently in the Marines and has done 2 tours of Iraq.I am so proud of all of them
i feel sorry for these people.my father also fought in ww2 but he survived and died 7 years ago from a heart attack
I just finished reading "The War" by Ken Burns and have watched "Flags.."and have the utmost respect for those who serve and have served so I can have the freedoms I do. Never having talked much about it when we asked him I found out after my father passed away that he fought in the Battle of the Bulge. The horror and sacrifices these men endured humble me yet make me so proud of them and this country.
god bless the young and old men who gave their lives on Iwo Jima and the flag rasers,I fithten and one day Im going to join the marines when im older and i will be the 80th generation to join the marines. god bless the corps
Hey paul I'm sorry to here of your fathers passing. Im doing a project for my History class about the Island and the blood spilt on it. I would very much like to use a picture or two to help show people the soldiers view. Please email me as quickly as possible (d.irminger@gmail.com).
Thank you very much,
Dillon
There was a Japanes flag captured about the time of the US Flag Raising that was autographed by a number of people, one being Ira Hayes and others yet to be identified. Theflag is in possesion of at local. Do any of y ou know anything about the flag I have mentioned? Thanks
My father Pvt Charles Tracey Kraus landed on Iwo Jima with the 5th Marine Division. I have read books on the subject and can not imiagine what it would have been like for those young warriors going into one of the most gruesome battles of WW2. But I can tell you this,he never talked about it. He has since past and now if I would have knowen I may have asked so many questions. I will however ask him at a later date. I do know that most VETRANS who have been in the heat of battle don't really like to talk about it.I have many pictures of this and my Father that I aquired after his passing which I would gladley share with anyone who is interested.I am so PROUD to be his son! God Bless this wonderfull country we live in and for those who gave there lives to protect it. Paul G. Kraus
I know this is really boring and you are skipping to the next comment, but I just wanted to throw you a big thanks - you cleared up some things for me...
I was one of the officers on the LST 779, the ship furnishing the 2nd flag. The flag raisings were quite a day. By the way, we were also the first LST to beach at IWO
1/17/2010: Just found this site (Yahoo news carried a Johnnie Cash album mention that further linked "Ira Hayes"; the flag-raising episode followed.)
Just wanted to add the weepy comments of an 83-year-old ex-navy guy who makes no claim to this historical happening other than I was a full 800 miles from Iwo when the flags went up. I read the words of those who wrote before on this site, and felt a certain kinship.
I have read many books on Iwo, visited the Arlington, VA monument, have seen the movies (the books put you in touch much better), and was given a personal birthday copy - by a member of my family -of Jim Bradley's wonderful "Flags of our Fathers."
Bradley's book - written in tribute to his Dad John, the sole navy man of the six flag-raisers, ranks among my top favorites of the many WW2 books which I have been privileged to access.
There was - and probably always will be - the question of the lack of attention and/or publicity space given to the original flag-raisers - those who routinely followed orders sans photo-thoughts to "raise the flag on Suribachi." They, God bless them, were not lesser heroes than the six cited; they just didn't have at-hand the proper-sized American flag, and the world, apparently, in a replay, demanded something more theatrical. If you were a Marine in the Iwo operation, you were solidly in harm's way from the first step into the sulphur ash until your part ended.
My other personal thought was for the bio mention of Mike Strank. I read somewhere - perhaps in "Flags" - that Mike was a "Marine's Marine" a label that can't be topped, stamping a guy who the rest of us can't wait to follow...
Thanks for letting me join in your website...
...Bill
Let there NEVER again be a war .Let Man only Help another Man,never kill him or hurt him.
What Harlon's brother who has now passed on told me about Harlon is that he was a very good football player; fast and very quick.
One of Harlon's best friend; Glen Clecker who was also in the battle on Iwo Jima and played football with Harlon was an educator and an Assistant principal when I was in junior high in Texas. I found out later when researching the flagraisers just what good friends Harlon and Glen Cleckler were. Anyway, the story around here as to how Harlon and some of his high school buddies join the Marines; they skip classes and ended up in the movie theatre and their excuse the next day to the high school principal; you guessed it, they went to see a Marine recruiter.
The school principal really like the story and spread like wildfire all over the school.Harlon and his friends had no choice;they were now committed and had no choice but to join the Marines. This is a true story and has been verified by the local papers
These boys were just doing a job, the Flag raising was meant as a symbol. Not a single one of them ever capitalized off of their wonderful achievement. This is probably the most significant picture of American Victory in WW2, I could not be any more proud of these men than any other man that gave it all for his Country.
I wish I could say the same about the un enlisted youth of today, I'd be willing to et that if the call went out today as it did in teh 40's, it would not be answere with such vigor. American idol, video games, selfishness, dope and skate boards are entirely too important anymore.
War is never easy for those who return. My father hardly talked about his time in France & Germany during WWII. After he died I discovered documents from the battle he was in at Herrlisheim, France. The "little battle of the bulge". Most of his platoon didn't make it.
The battle at iwo jima was probably worse. I came to this site to learn more about Ira Hayes after listening to a song about him. The ballad of Ira Hayes, song by Johnny Cash on "The Man In Black" CD.
All service men & women are heros. Those who provide support, those who die in combat, and those who return with the battle still raging in their mind.
Harlon Block was my Great Uncle, he was killed long before I was born. Im know he was one helluva man, from what Ive heard from family. And considering he was family, what he did in life - and the way he fought for what was right he was a man I would have liked to have known. Dont ever forget what these men sacrificed their lives for, and dont forget that these men were more than enshrined heros in a well published photograph. They sacrificed their future so you and your children could have one.
I am really proud of those men who fought and died on that little island.The one that all like the most out of the six flag raisers is Jhon Bradley.I am just really proud of all of them who fought on iwo.
Just began reading, "Flags of our Fathers", and can not put the book down. Its simply heart capturing. Just having read briefly about all six boys' life's growing up through boyhood, and just trying to fathom what went through their minds and lives. Most not living past teens or early twenties,I cant even began to describe the sacrifices they made at such a young age. Can not wait to read more into the book.
If anyone could offer any information o PFC Franklin Souseley, please send to me...
He was my cousin on my Mother's side.
Unfortunatly the family in KY did not keep many records and I having grown up in Sussex County NJ did not have a chance to know many of the ones that would have know him
Thank you all for making this country free....
He was my cousin on my mom's side and I have always wanted more info than what the family could give.
I enjoy reading up on him every chance I get
If you guys want a good book about the Marines. The book Semper Fi. It has mutliple stories including one about John Bradley. But be warned, it's a rough book. And to the vets, thanks so much, and hopefully i can come out like you when i go in to the service.
The book Flags Of Our Fathers by John Bradley's son James (the film of the same title was based on the book, but the book gives you a perspective and dimension that film can't), will give you a good background to the flag-raisers lives and the battle of Iwo Jima in general.
Though be warned, it really brings home the human loss of war.
old glory always found away to show the whole world why we are the greatest nation on the planet in our darkest hours.
While doing a family tree project with my daughter, I was informed by my grandmother, Geraldine Gagnon, that she was cousins with Rene Gagnon. Let me know how you are connected!!
I have the pleasure of being related to Rene Gagnon and I am also thankful for the 70,000 americans that fought the battle for iwo jima. May the world someday be at complete peace.
Thanks to all the families who gave of their children to fight this war that we had so many years ago. Thanks for the men and women of this era who were wounded and came back unnoticed by so many. Today we are still at war and still losing our children. To many times in life we are worried about the small things...that really doesn't matter at all. May these fine youg men who gave thier lives rest in peace,and for all of you second war vets that are still living.....THANKS.....WELCOME HOME
John A. Houghtaling Sr.
USN.Ret.
ill tell you hwat i know about iwo jima
1: the 2nd flag that was raised was a 100 lbs drainage pipe
2: Frankln Sously was kinda like a hillbilly (haha)
3: Harlon Block was a football player
4: Rene Gagnon later in his life went to Mount Saribachi with his son and gave him a tour
5: At the moment the picture was taken by Joe Rosenthal, if you took off Rene gagnon's helmet, there was a pisture of his girlfriend
that is so cool that you met John Bradley's son and Harlon Block's brother. i just presnted my project to my class. i wish i had the honor of meeting those men. Now in class we have to write a 4-5 paragraph essay on the flag raisers. which i think is intresting although i need to go deeper into the flag raisers lives i can't use my book by James Bradley, the only resource i have is the internet so i was wondering if you could give me an inside story on the flag raisers? like how they lived when they were young (before the war) and after the war? if you could do that for me it would be a really big help!
I'm from the UK and us Brits have a lot to thank the USA for during WW2.
Goods luck guys
I am a frshman in highschool and i am also doing a project on the flag raisers. although there is alot of information on them i still have a deep beleif the the is more information about them. if there is anymore information about this war i would greatly appreciate it.
I still cry every time I visit this this site. I'm in my 70's so I guess I always will!!
thank you for haveing these pictures on this website.
i'm in the 9th grade and i am doing a project on the flag raisers of iwo jima. i'm also reading Flags of our fathers by James Bradley. although it is cool what you have written and thanks for the info on the flag raisers.
Since being just a little boy Mr Rosenthal's photograph fascinated me, I thought it was a wonderful image. Still to this day this photograph moves me. However, now I know the stories of the men (boys really!) who raised it, and their stories makes the image come to life. For me, as a little boy, I was too young to really know that the American Flag belonged to another country ( Me being English) and so, for just a while, this flag was my flag too. It was only later I learned that my flag was the Union Jack. and Old Glory was American, and not mine at all. But I really can recall when Old Glory was mine, and that I was, for just a short time American too! I cannot explain why, but when I think back to then, I get a feeling of belonging, and that the stars and stripes feel right. Perhaps in England the flag is not flown as often as the Americans fly theirs, perhaps it is because we see the respect the American flag receives wherever it is aloft, the sense of unity appeals to me a great deal, and I love the way Americans are proud to be Americans. Whatever it is, I know this to be true. The most fantastic melting pot on earth, took all nations, and produced one fantastic country of people from all over the planet who live together. Just look at Joe Rosenthal's photo, and see a Pima Indian - a Czechoslovakian- a French American - and English/ Irish Americans! All around one flag. For me, that is what makes America Great.
My respect to the Flag raisers. To the flag raisers respect for their own fallen comrades.Those that did not return, and to the United States Marines. Last but not least - The Stars and Stripes.
I had the honor of meeting John Bradley's son and Harlon Block's brother;of reading about Franlin Sousley,Ira Hayes,Mike Strank,Rene Gagnon,Boots Thomas Hank Hanson.I can only imagine the sacrifice and bravery of our American Heroes and their families. These truly was our Greatest Generation and our finest moment.
iwo jima is a very intresting subject i love the name by the wPr